Sold car - broke 15 miles away - buyer wants refund - help?

Sold car - broke 15 miles away - buyer wants refund - help?

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AdeTuono

7,259 posts

228 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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DoubleSix said:
No. I refer you back to my previous suggestion. Or just have them round your place, invite them in to size up your security, layout, valubles etc Seems thats what OP has done anyway.
However do you get through life? What about the postman? He knows where you live. Watch out for the paperboy, you never know... Home delivery guy? Better get him to drop any parcels at the local post office. Who reads your meters?

I'm glad I don't live in your world.

DoubleSix

11,718 posts

177 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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DoubleSix said:
Like I say, not really an issue for me
personally, but I know some people (colleagues) who would be quite happy to do a quick walk around at work an then areange to meet at residential address.

As i said, i honestly dont care what u guys chose to do but its an option for some.
Not often u have to quote yourself, but here goes...

PumpkinSteve

4,105 posts

157 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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AdeTuono said:
However do you get through life? What about the postman? He knows where you live. Watch out for the paperboy, you never know... Home delivery guy? Better get him to drop any parcels at the local post office. Who reads your meters?

I'm glad I don't live in your world.
My grandma shreds envelopes in case anyone finds out her address. I don't know how she thinks they arrived in the first place, she is going a bit mad confused

JonRB

74,615 posts

273 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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AdeTuono said:
However do you get through life? What about the postman? He knows where you live. Watch out for the paperboy, you never know... Home delivery guy? Better get him to drop any parcels at the local post office. Who reads your meters?

I'm glad I don't live in your world.
Your world sounds fluffy and wonderful. I wish I lived there. Sounds awesome and crime-free.

Care to post up your full address and postcode so we can all visit? After all, your paperboy, postman and home delivery know it.


AdeTuono

7,259 posts

228 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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JonRB said:
AdeTuono said:
However do you get through life? What about the postman? He knows where you live. Watch out for the paperboy, you never know... Home delivery guy? Better get him to drop any parcels at the local post office. Who reads your meters?

I'm glad I don't live in your world.
Your world sounds fluffy and wonderful. I wish I lived there. Sounds awesome and crime-free.

Care to post up your full address and postcode so we can all visit? After all, your paperboy, postman and home delivery know it.
If everyone on PH had a genuine reason to come and visit, of course I would (that's an idea; I could hold a PH BBQ!). Swerni and several others, who I had never met in my life, have been here. Swerni bought a car from me a couple of months ago. I have also sold other cars from my home (I must be fking MENTAL, mustn't I?). I've had many people here who I didn't know from Adam, and not one of them have killed me to death or come back and raided me whilst I'm sleeping.

But then I do live in a bleedin' great castle, with a moat, ramparts, a vat of boiling oil over the portcullis, a trained squad of Ninja guards, several slavering Wolfhounds and a minefield up to the front door.

But maybe that's just me...

(the bit about the Wolfhounds is true, so don't even think about it...)

And if you genuinely would like to know where I live (I'm selling my 645 soon), just PM me and I'll give you my address, just as I will to a guy on here who's already expressed an interest in the car. Unless you live on a council estate; you never know who you're dealing with, do you? rolleyes



Engineer1

10,486 posts

210 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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Buying a second hand car privately I would want to go to the sellers house and ideally see them come out of the house. I'm not paranoid but it isn't too hard to sit on a drive outside a house if you know the householder is on holiday or at work.

danp

1,603 posts

263 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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Engineer1 said:
Buying a second hand car privately I would want to go to the sellers house and ideally see them come out of the house. I'm not paranoid but it isn't too hard to sit on a drive outside a house if you know the householder is on holiday or at work.
with the v5 listing this alternative address?!

when selling perhaps one should ask the potential purchaser to provide id and proof of *their* address, which if they are legit shld be fine?

Liquid Tuna

1,400 posts

157 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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PumpkinSteve said:
My grandma shreds envelopes in case anyone finds out her address. I don't know how she thinks they arrived in the first place, she is going a bit mad confused
She shreds them so no one can take them out of her wheelie bin and steal her identity. If everyone did this we'd all be better off. Who do you think ultimately picks up the tab for identity theft?

AdeTuono

7,259 posts

228 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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Liquid Tuna said:
PumpkinSteve said:
My grandma shreds envelopes in case anyone finds out her address. I don't know how she thinks they arrived in the first place, she is going a bit mad confused
She shreds them so no one can take them out of her wheelie bin and steal her identity. If everyone did this we'd all be better off. Who do you think ultimately picks up the tab for identity theft?
Better ban all phone books then. They've got nearly everyone's name and address in 'em. A lot easier then delving through a load of rotting vegetables and household rubbish.

marshalla

15,902 posts

202 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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AdeTuono said:
Better ban all phone books then. They've got nearly everyone's name and address in 'em. A lot easier then delving through a load of rotting vegetables and household rubbish.
a) I'll let you think about what you've just said.
b) they don't list who you get post from (e.g. banks) do they ?

Liquid Tuna

1,400 posts

157 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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AdeTuono said:
Better ban all phone books then. They've got nearly everyone's name and address in 'em. A lot easier then delving through a load of rotting vegetables and household rubbish.
You are joking, yes? Do you actually understand how easy it is to get enough details out of someone's rubbish to cause them an awful lot of problems? You probably call it paranoia, but it's common sense to shred everything that comes through your door with a name and address on before throwing it away. It's hardly difficult to do is it? A shredder can be bought for about 7 quid.

AdeTuono

7,259 posts

228 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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marshalla said:
a) I'll let you think about what you've just said.
b) they don't list who you get post from (e.g. banks) do they ?
a) I'll let you think about what you've just said.
b) how does shredding an envelope help? Have they started printing account details and sort codes on those now? Most of the time, they don't even have the bank's name on, for the very reason you allude to.

marshalla

15,902 posts

202 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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AdeTuono said:
b) how does shredding an envelope help? Have they started printing account details and sort codes on those now? Most of the time, they don't even have the bank's name on, for the very reason you allude to.
Return addresses. Every single one I get from a bank (or any other financial institution or utility company) has an easily identifiable return address. Given a return address and a decent printer it's easy to produce a fake document from a "reliable" body. Add in some flim flam about change of address and you get a nice easy way to obtain money by deception, especially if you know the trigger thresholds for "id" requirements.

AdeTuono

7,259 posts

228 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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I'll ask again; how does knowing who supplies someone's electricity/water/gas/banking services help fraud? Unless you know account details/log-in names/references, all you know is the name and address, which is easily obtainable from electoral rolls/phone books/on-line. You phone someone up and say 'My name's Smith, Southern Electric supply my electricty and gas, I bank with Nat West, Wessex Water supply my water, I recently bought a guitar from GAK in Brighton, BT supply my phone and broadband (all true; have I left myself wide open?) and see if they'll allow you to buy something online/access your bank details/cancel your account.

The issue raised was the fact that an old woman shreds her envelopes, not that she's habitually throwing away domestic bills, bank statements or anything else that may have more details than her address and the address of the sender.

Jeezus, it really is getting to be like Mumsnet round here. My mother's paranoid as well, but then she is in her 70's and afraid of her own shadow. I'll just continue in my blinkered approach to life, sleep with my doors and windows open and leave the house for more than 10 minutes without setting man-traps. God knows how I've come this far without being victim to modern life.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

210 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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Well the Guitar may be enough combined with some guessable info if you paid by card after all it will be a previous big expenditure.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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Yes, yes, but what about the nutter and the broken car? Is the OP as we speak in several different bin liners at the bottom of a canal? Has nutter sent his daddy round for a quiet chat? Enquiring minds need to know!

NiceCupOfTea

25,294 posts

252 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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Update please! Have invested far too much of my Saturday morning in this thread!

Apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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he's been killed to death hasn't he

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Apache said:
he's been killed to death hasn't he
Yes, twice.

Altrezia

Original Poster:

8,517 posts

212 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Sorry chaps - nothing to report. heard nothing smile