Sold car - broke 15 miles away - buyer wants refund - help?
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Drive the car back? So it works??? This is confusing.
Personally I am a little on your side of thinking... if you feel guilty about the situation.
I can't speak for other people. BUT if I sold a car that blew up on the journey home I would've gone to see it straight away and if it was indeed buggered (and I didn't think this was on purpose) I would have refunded... on the day its easier to reinstate insurances, I wouldn't have sent off the paperwork etc etc.
The issue with paying for the recovery would've been moot as I would use my own breakdown cover.
This is nothing to do with rights ya de yada but how I would've dealt with the situation.
Is there a reason you didn't go and see it at the time he called?
Personally I am a little on your side of thinking... if you feel guilty about the situation.
I can't speak for other people. BUT if I sold a car that blew up on the journey home I would've gone to see it straight away and if it was indeed buggered (and I didn't think this was on purpose) I would have refunded... on the day its easier to reinstate insurances, I wouldn't have sent off the paperwork etc etc.
The issue with paying for the recovery would've been moot as I would use my own breakdown cover.
This is nothing to do with rights ya de yada but how I would've dealt with the situation.
Is there a reason you didn't go and see it at the time he called?
Altrezia said:
Just called him - he blew the lid at me saying he is going to get his dad to drive back now and 'play it hard if I want to play it hard'
No idea what that means, but I'm taking my cars to my parents house now!
FFS.
No idea what that means, but I'm taking my cars to my parents house now!
FFS.
And remind him that it's not your car anymore. If he gets it dumped at your property you'll just get it towed.
This smells a bit fishy to me, he (with no evidence whatsoever) perhaps broke the car deliberately. I bet some people get duped into these things and end up out of pocket with a broken car.
Don't fall for it.
This smells a bit fishy to me, he (with no evidence whatsoever) perhaps broke the car deliberately. I bet some people get duped into these things and end up out of pocket with a broken car.
Don't fall for it.
£1800 doesn't sound dear for a 1997 Disco, I know how well these things hold their money, even the rotten ones.
I'd explain, first of all; the same as everybody else has pointed out - unfortunate circumstances but it is to be expected that he is to take responsibility for the car the minute he backed it off your drive; he took ownership not only of the car but also of the possible shortcomings of owning a 15 year old vehicle. I'd go on to explain that he bought your car pretty keenly, he conducted the necessary inspections when he looked at it, and given the price he paid I'm sure there is some financial allowance in putting it right. The head gasket has obviously gone; it's an old car and very characteristic of a Disco of this vintage; you have not set out to sell him a duff motor. Whether or not the engine has actually seized is debatable, that just might have been him being a drama queen on the phone. He needs to apply some logic to the situation, accept that the ball is in his court and deal with the unfortunate circumstances. The £100 recovery you offered shows willing - I would not retract it, however just make it explicitly clear that you will not have the car returned to your house, and let that be an end to the matter.
"Simples"
I'd explain, first of all; the same as everybody else has pointed out - unfortunate circumstances but it is to be expected that he is to take responsibility for the car the minute he backed it off your drive; he took ownership not only of the car but also of the possible shortcomings of owning a 15 year old vehicle. I'd go on to explain that he bought your car pretty keenly, he conducted the necessary inspections when he looked at it, and given the price he paid I'm sure there is some financial allowance in putting it right. The head gasket has obviously gone; it's an old car and very characteristic of a Disco of this vintage; you have not set out to sell him a duff motor. Whether or not the engine has actually seized is debatable, that just might have been him being a drama queen on the phone. He needs to apply some logic to the situation, accept that the ball is in his court and deal with the unfortunate circumstances. The £100 recovery you offered shows willing - I would not retract it, however just make it explicitly clear that you will not have the car returned to your house, and let that be an end to the matter.
"Simples"
If he is intending to come over to your private residence and have already left a threatening message I will definitely call up your local police to report this. Calmly and clearly tell them everything not forgetting to include details of the buyers name and the number he is calling you from. Get some cameras ready to record video and audio just in case things get heated.
I believe you should have the buyers details as well after signing over the V5 docs so keep that safe.
I believe you should have the buyers details as well after signing over the V5 docs so keep that safe.
The car is no longer your property. Its his as of whatever time you shook hands, exchanged money and filled in paperwork.
You could offer to buy it back, obviously for less than he paid because he has knackered it in, although he has no paperwork to legally sell back to you. I guess that's where the scam set in.
He wants the money and the car (remember he has the paperwork on its way from the DVLA to him)
Say your missus has spent some of the money and offer him what you have left (over the phone) say £1500 if he accepts because he thinks thats the best he is going to get, its a scam. At that point hang up.
You could offer to buy it back, obviously for less than he paid because he has knackered it in, although he has no paperwork to legally sell back to you. I guess that's where the scam set in.
He wants the money and the car (remember he has the paperwork on its way from the DVLA to him)
Say your missus has spent some of the money and offer him what you have left (over the phone) say £1500 if he accepts because he thinks thats the best he is going to get, its a scam. At that point hang up.
Edited by alpinemauve on Thursday 16th August 12:02
fatboy69 said:
As per previous posts tell him to jog on. Tosspot.
15 miles & the engine overheated & seized up? Do me a favour.
Even me, with zero mechanical knowledge at all, knows that this wouldn't happen in such a short distance. 150 miles maybe but 15?
He's having you over big time.
I've driven a car with the belt driving the water pump gone, bugger overheat in roughly 3 miles. But such a thing would have shown up on the test drive, so i agree that it overheating and seizing in 15 miles is b15 miles & the engine overheated & seized up? Do me a favour.
Even me, with zero mechanical knowledge at all, knows that this wouldn't happen in such a short distance. 150 miles maybe but 15?
He's having you over big time.
ks most likely.Why was it going to take him until 08:00 tomorrow morning to have it recovered to you if it was sat at the side of a motorway only 15 miles away.
Phone the police, tell them he's threatened you so its at least on record.
When he turns up be polite but firm, inform him the police are aware, if he gets shirty phone them again and tell them he's on your proerpty making threats.
As far as i'm aware you owe him nothing. Its bad luck for him.
(I know how he feels though, I once bought a car who's engine tore itself apart rather impressivly after three days of ownership)
Phone the police, tell them he's threatened you so its at least on record.
When he turns up be polite but firm, inform him the police are aware, if he gets shirty phone them again and tell them he's on your proerpty making threats.
As far as i'm aware you owe him nothing. Its bad luck for him.
(I know how he feels though, I once bought a car who's engine tore itself apart rather impressivly after three days of ownership)
Rakoosh said:
Drive the car back? So it works??? This is confusing.
No it isn't. It shows it's a try on. This is how it works folks, innit. Sweet bruv. Those buy to let houses aren't going to buy themselves are they, bruv?1. Stupid scumbag innit buys car for £1800 cash claimed from benefits for eight kids which don't exist.
2. Car is fine when it leaves
3. 15 minutes later innit phones the seller and tells him that the engine has seized innit and he wants his money back innit
4. Seller refuses
5. Innit then threatens the seller over the phone and says he's coming round with his mates innit (or in this case his Dad, FFS)
6. Innit brings the (not broken) broken car round to seller (because he knows where he lives) and say "Ok den innit bruv I want £1000 back and I'll call it quits innit, and you is lucky innit messin wid me and my mate will fix it innit for cheap - best price - an you is lucky innit
7. Seller, being a decent type with a family, decides to cut innit a deal to avoid unpleasantness at home and hands over £1000
8. Tax avoiding benefit scrounging innit drives away in not broken car, with £1000 in his stinking pocket. He often returns to help himself to your plasma TV, wife's jewellery and computer which he scoped out when round your house innit. If innit is of appropriate heritage, innit will at this point accuse of you racism for good measure
9. Innit sells car for £1800, thus turning £1800 cash in £2800 cash in 24 hours. Alternatively, innit stages accident by standing on the brakes without warning, and claims £10,000 for damage to car, car hire and whiplash, thus turning £1,800 into £11,800
10. Innit repeats, does not pay any tax, and keeps claiming benefits innit dough bruv, cos it's his oooman rahhts innit dough bruv.
You pay. Every time.
Scum. Utter filth.
Edited by Soovy on Thursday 16th August 12:23
Had similar situation myself. Sold an Astra cdti, had used it for 12 months and ran sweet, sold it and half an hour later the guy rang me up saying the gear box has gone. Wanted £450 back from the £2500 price he paid. I said how do you know the gear box has gone? He said the AA are here and they say the box has gone, I said let me speak to the AA man - he put the phone down. Never heard off him again. Later that night his wife rang me up saying how will I sleep at night knowing I have sold a dodgy car. I said let me come and see the car, she put the phone down. Jokers trying it on.
EDLT said:
Tony Soprano is both fictional and doesn't buy 1997 Land Rovers, so I wouldn't worry about that. If he threatens you there is this new service called "The Police" that will have a chat with him free of charge.
"Woke up theis morning, bought myself a shed...."Nah, you are right.
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