RE: SOTW: MG ZS 180

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Steve vRS

4,848 posts

242 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Actus Reus said:
Quicker than a GT86.

Just sayin'...
Made me smile.

Steve

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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kambites said:
I've known a few owners and they were typically Rover - nothing fundamentally wrong with the design, but whether you got one that had been screwed together properly was complete luck. Some are pretty much flawless, some seem to fall to bits every time you go over a bump.
I've read/heard some of the latter ones experienced more problems, so maybe was a sign of the times. In all I think we've had 30+ Rover cars since the SD3 200 era. I don't recall a single one falling apart or really being trouble though, but maybe we were lucky with them?

kambites

67,586 posts

222 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
kambites said:
I've known a few owners and they were typically Rover - nothing fundamentally wrong with the design, but whether you got one that had been screwed together properly was complete luck. Some are pretty much flawless, some seem to fall to bits every time you go over a bump.
I've read/heard some of the latter ones experienced more problems, so maybe was a sign of the times. In all I think we've had 30+ Rover cars since the SD3 200 era. I don't recall a single one falling apart or really being trouble though, but maybe we were lucky with them?
I certainly think build quality fell after BMW bought them.

Numeric

1,398 posts

152 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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The Touring car was not an MGZS, it wouldn't have met the homologation so it was in truth technically a Rover 45/400 as that did come with a 2.0ltr engine which was the size required, even if the engine used wasn't the one from the 45 (we all just whistled and walked away from the scene while glueing some MG bits to the car). Nerd fact of the day.

Second these were so easy to steal it was a joke - the insertion of a screwdriver in a certain place could short out the whole defence system, so if it looks bent you can thank the midlands joy rider brigade. (the fault was found and fixed but not retro'd so some cars are still weak)

And lastly it never seemed that quick - you really had to screw the bits off it to move.

But my god it sounded awesome when you did, even if that Golf TDI used to still get away from me up that hill :-))

kambites

67,586 posts

222 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Numeric said:
Second these were so easy to steal it was a joke - the insertion of a screwdriver in a certain place could short out the whole defence system, so if it looks bent you can thank the midlands joy rider brigade. (the fault was found and fixed but not retro'd so some cars are still weak)
So nearly as easy as a modern RHD BMW? hehe

dbdb

4,326 posts

174 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Nice, interesting, smallish car.

Itsallicanafford

2,772 posts

160 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Greg 172 said:
Whoop! Local shed. Was considering stopping and having a poke around at this on my way back from work but advert says it's in St Albans. Rubbish.
...thats not rubish at all, i live in St Albans.

SpudLink

5,846 posts

193 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
richb77 said:
Dated design and ageing tooling didn't help the cars at all.
Some people wheel out this line again and again. But I'm curious in design terms (in 2002) what exactly is out dated? Or are you simply referring to styling rather than design.

Not sure what the tooling has to do with it either if I'm honest.
At the time I though it was designed to appeal to buyers who remember when Rover was an aspirational brand (P5 or something of that era). Not so much an 'old' design, more 'olde worlde'.

Yann1882

12 posts

158 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Not bad car for the money but boring has hell to look at really not my cup of tea

VeeDub Geezer

461 posts

155 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Very tempting. Top shed.

As stated, it's saloon brethrin is the better looker but a hatch would be the more practial of the two.

sinbaddio

2,375 posts

177 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Steve vRS said:
Actus Reus said:
Quicker than a GT86.

Just sayin'...
Made me smile.

Steve
Me too smile

Greg 172

233 posts

202 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Itsallicanafford said:
Greg 172 said:
Whoop! Local shed. Was considering stopping and having a poke around at this on my way back from work but advert says it's in St Albans. Rubbish.
...thats not rubish at all, i live in St Albans.
smile Does make me wonder where the other 2 'Clifton' cars are located....

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Numeric said:
And lastly it never seemed that quick - you really had to screw the bits off it to move.

But my god it sounded awesome when you did, even if that Golf TDI used to still get away from me up that hill :-))
If a Golf Tdi was pulling on you, then logic would suggest it was probably heavily mapped and tuned. And considering an MGZS180 puts up the same stats as a Clio 172 and many other hot hatches, then that same Golf would also have been pulling on them too.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Yann1882 said:
Not bad car for the money but boring has hell to look at really not my cup of tea
ok playing devils advocate. But your complaint is it looks boring. But how exactly does your 1997 Golf VR6 not look any less boring? And I'd have thought quite a similar idea in terms of power/weight/fwd/size.

X5TUU

11,943 posts

188 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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awful awful awful

Zerotonine

1,171 posts

175 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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I have driven a couple of these and I do actually like them. The only thing that would put me off is the clutch pedal being so bloody high. Just could not get along with it.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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X5TUU said:
awful awful awful
why why why

or maybe

no no no


or

roflroflrofl

Frimley111R

15,677 posts

235 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Only reached £620 on eBay last time.

CliveM

525 posts

186 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Slightly leftfield, quickish, 30+ mpg, not so ancient you can't get spare parts, lowish mileage - IT'S 750 QUID.
I've (all too often) spent more than that on a service, what a cracking SOTW!

SWoll

18,434 posts

259 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
Yann1882 said:
Not bad car for the money but boring has hell to look at really not my cup of tea
ok playing devils advocate. But your complaint is it looks boring. But how exactly does your 1997 Golf VR6 not look any less boring? And I'd have thought quite a similar idea in terms of power/weight/fwd/size.
He thinks it looks boring, you don't. Looks are too subjective a topic and almost impossible to justify, so why bother?