RE: SOTW: MG ZS 180
Discussion
V6 quad cam and 180 Gee Gees for 3/4 of a bag of sand? What's not to like? Take off some of the tell-tale badges, get a flat cap on, grey mustache and a cheeky hint of a zimmer frame on the back seat and blast the unsuspecting general public into this afternoon!
All for the price of a dodgy Bradley Wiggins look-alike bike!
All for the price of a dodgy Bradley Wiggins look-alike bike!
300bhp/ton said:
SWoll said:
He thinks it looks boring, you don't. Looks are too subjective a topic and almost impossible to justify, so why bother?
Question/promotes discussion on a discussion forum. Personal curiosity. BTW I didn't say what I thought about it's looks, deliberately so. 
Too intangible a subject that is only likely to lead to an argument rather than a discussion. As another poster said it's 'personal preference' and should be accepted as such.
PatrickOUFC said:
Decent looking motor - at £750, can't really go wrong can you?
There are quite a lot of (nasty) stories about that KV6 engine. I don't think I'd risk it unless those concerns could be addressed. I really don't like these cars very much at all, although I have to say that I only drove one (lesser example) in Malaysia 9 years ago. However, this is Shed, and I guess the point is how much fun car (with a valid MOT) can we find every week for a grand or less. It's certainly not a fail, but I don't think I'd be tempted unless the price was even less. Others here may know if the KV6 used in the ZS 180 had the gremlins sorted or not.
SWoll said:
You didn't need to, your reputation precedes you.
Personally I'm not taken with the looks, but then I feel that way about most cars of this class. That said, the big wing saloon version is quite striking in a similar way an Evo or Impreza STI is. Love or hate the looks I'm not sure that "boring" is an accurate description on any level. And would appear to be stemming from something other than the cars appearance.SWoll said:
Too intangible a subject that is only likely to lead to an argument rather than a discussion. As another poster said it's 'personal preference' and should be accepted as such.
300bhp/ton said:
Numeric said:
And lastly it never seemed that quick - you really had to screw the bits off it to move.
But my god it sounded awesome when you did, even if that Golf TDI used to still get away from me up that hill :-))
If a Golf Tdi was pulling on you, then logic would suggest it was probably heavily mapped and tuned. And considering an MGZS180 puts up the same stats as a Clio 172 and many other hot hatches, then that same Golf would also have been pulling on them too.But my god it sounded awesome when you did, even if that Golf TDI used to still get away from me up that hill :-))
kambites said:
I wasn't aware of any common failures in the KV6 at all?
VIS motors fail pretty often. That's the only common engine "issue" i'm aware of...This would probably explain why some people didn't think they were that nippy- with these broken(and most 180's have at least one broken), they only put out around 120bhp.
MadDog1962 said:
There are quite a lot of (nasty) stories about that KV6 engine. I don't think I'd risk it unless those concerns could be addressed. I really don't like these cars very much at all, although I have to say that I only drove one (lesser example) in Malaysia 9 years ago. However, this is Shed, and I guess the point is how much fun car (with a valid MOT) can we find every week for a grand or less. It's certainly not a fail, but I don't think I'd be tempted unless the price was even less.
Others here may know if the KV6 used in the ZS 180 had the gremlins sorted or not.
Curious, but what issues have you heard of with the V6? The KV6 in the ZS isn't the same as the early 800's. I believe Rover developed it over the years. Besides early ones where all hand built, the latter ones weren't.Others here may know if the KV6 used in the ZS 180 had the gremlins sorted or not.
The biggest thing Rover did wrong with them was they set them up for comfort, so soft squidgy suspension. But the platform is good, although it's nearly all Honda. Rover had little actual input to the design of this model and merely restyled the exterior bodywork.
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