RE: Driven: Mazda MX-5 GT Concept

RE: Driven: Mazda MX-5 GT Concept

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Gorbyrev

1,160 posts

155 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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Make loads and sell it cheaper - it can be done!

JackP1

1,269 posts

163 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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TNH said:
In the article body you mention a redline of 7,800rpm but in the stats you say 6,000rpm?

6,000rpm is lower than the standard car?
What theyre quoting is max power @ rpm, not specifically the redline. So it will rev to 7800rpm, but mac power is at 6000rpm

Oh and to the person who said about 7k extra for a few bits and pieces, if i had the same on my st (engine wise) you would be looking at topping nearly 3k for the engine work alone.

mikEsprit

828 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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20 years too late, imo.

A Miata is fully entrenched as a girl's car in my mind and this is akin to putting a beard on a girl.

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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Yes, but remember that opinions are like aholes.

Superhoop

4,680 posts

194 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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mikEsprit said:
20 years too late, imo.

A Miata is fully entrenched as a girl's car in my mind and this is akin to putting a beard on a girl.
I never seem to get this right, is it the banghead or the loser smiley required after a comment like this?

AlexKing

613 posts

159 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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mikEsprit said:
20 years too late, imo.

A Miata is fully entrenched as a girl's car in my mind and this is akin to putting a beard on a girl.
Hooray for closed minds and an insecure sexuality!

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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I see - he's a dumb Mercin.

the_hood

771 posts

195 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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Bill Carr said:
Steve vRS said:
£30k !!!

You could get a used 997 for that!
You could get three Fiat 500s!

While we're being silly. What about a Golf GTi?? smile

Steve vRS

4,848 posts

242 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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the_hood said:
Bill Carr said:
Steve vRS said:
£30k !!!

You could get a used 997 for that!
You could get three Fiat 500s!

While we're being silly. What about a Golf GTi?? smile
I was quoted without the wink though.

The reason for the quip was that most GT-86 threads seem to descend into some berk arguing that we should all buy 15 year old M3s instead.

Steve

ambuletz

10,757 posts

182 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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£7000 over the top spec regular MX-5. Must be one hell of a strange tuning to warrant that much money.
Couldn't you just turbocharge a regular 2litre MX-5 for that money? Or fiddle the ECU?

mizx

1,570 posts

186 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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ambuletz said:
£7000 over the top spec regular MX-5. Must be one hell of a strange tuning to warrant that much money.
Couldn't you just turbocharge a regular 2litre MX-5 for that money? Or fiddle the ECU?
I imagine the throttle bodies are pretty expensive, as far as I know they are a relatively new development for the Mk3/NC.

I use miata.net as the Mk3s seem to be far more popular for modifying in the US, I don't recall ever seeing any thread about ITBs on Mk3s, I only remember one person saying they weren't possible. The usual manifolds, de-cat (well, both cats, the manifolds being the primary), exhaust etc. sees good gains as far as I know; these guys achieved 226ps with Tomei cams and some internals work http://tinyurl.com/89taeow Until now I didn't know there was any other way than cams to achieve over 200bhp NA.





fao. any genuine mx5 experts here, I'm not completely sure what I'm talking about smile (I've now been typing this for nearly an hour...)
...I have a Racing Beat exhaust on mine and want to add their centre pipe, and change the manifolds, but I'm unsure/worried what it means for an MOT. There is an aftermarket manifold retaining the cat in the US for certain SCCA categories, I know that Goodwin racing were working on a cheaper version (a few Japanese tuning companies produce them also), but it was to my suprise the other day that IL Motorsports are now stocking one, would it be legal here? even necessary?

Edited by mizx on Friday 24th August 01:52

Verde

506 posts

189 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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Two words:
BUILD IT
Now just a bit more:
Just 40 or so more horsepower is just not enough. Seems like a different level of MX-5, with around 300 high-revving hp is what we really want. Mazda has convinced us all that it's just unimaginable so we salivate over barely 40. Too bad.
V

Edited by Verde on Friday 24th August 06:02

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

235 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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Steve vRS said:
the_hood said:
Bill Carr said:
Steve vRS said:
£30k !!!

You could get a used 997 for that!
You could get three Fiat 500s!

While we're being silly. What about a Golf GTi?? smile
I was quoted without the wink though.

The reason for the quip was that most GT-86 threads seem to descend into some berk arguing that we should all buy 15 year old M3s instead.

Steve
Yup, and someone posted the Fiat 500 comparison before. (possibly Monkey's Ferrari purchase thread)

Don't worry, I got your meaning!

underphil

1,246 posts

211 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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JackP1 said:
What theyre quoting is max power @ rpm, not specifically the redline. So it will rev to 7800rpm, but mac power is at 6000rpm

Oh and to the person who said about 7k extra for a few bits and pieces, if i had the same on my st (engine wise) you would be looking at topping nearly 3k for the engine work alone.
agree, but I'm not sure there are any 2.0 NA enigines that can make 100bhp/litre @6000rpm ??

crispyshark

1,262 posts

146 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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hornetrider said:
Ved said:
Awesome but still too expensive.
I'd agree. I own a Mk3.5 Sport Tech Coupe. The article states they are 23k so hence this is a 7k premium. The reality is nobody pays more than 19 for a top spec Sport Tech and I paid 17.5 - that is brand new, first owner, out of the showroom.

So, what we are talking about here in real terms is a 12-13k premium over the standard car - which DOES make it too expensive. Don't get me wrong, I understand the pricing with respect to Mazda's RRP - the problem being no-one pays RRP for MX-5s.

I spoke to the guy on the stand about this at the FoS and he basically said their hands were tied over the pricing. Shame.
this

Far, far too expensive. Shame really. Will be better to wait for the joint roadster offering from Alfa and Mazda (if it ever happens)

mazdaman1980

140 posts

205 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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I saw this do two runs at the Festival of Speed and it was one of the best sounding cars there, bar none. Quite a suprise when you think of all the high end exotica there. I have always liked MX5 and for those who can crawl past the hairdresser stigma that sadly comes attached to this car they will be blessed with one of the most sweet handling, little bundles of driving joy i have had the pleasure of driving. I cannot praise Mazda enough for persisting over the years, they really can turn out some wonderful cars. I do think £30k is a tad expensive but then what new car will come close to the fluidity and balance that an MX5 can offer and as for the noise, wow!

itz_baseline

821 posts

222 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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The body kit reminds me of the old Fiesta XR2 body kit. I like it....nice to see a change from everything being colour coded.

falconhoof

160 posts

145 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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My mk1 2.0 focus is lighter than this, I have removed the back seats, carpets, stereo and aircon admitedly. Could be lighter with a bit more bhp, for 30k, no way jose!

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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falconhoof said:
My mk1 2.0 focus is lighter than this, I have removed the back seats, carpets, stereo and aircon admitedly. Could be lighter with a bit more bhp, for 30k, no way jose!
That's all very well, but what's it got to do with the price of milk?!

falconhoof

160 posts

145 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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hornetrider said:
falconhoof said:
My mk1 2.0 focus is lighter than this, I have removed the back seats, carpets, stereo and aircon admitedly. Could be lighter with a bit more bhp, for 30k, no way jose!
That's all very well, but what's it got to do with the price of milk?!
Nothing man just think its heavy for what it is, my ten year old medium sized hatch is lighter, was just a bit surprised by that that's all ken!