RE: You Know You Want To: 200K Audi RS4 (B5)

RE: You Know You Want To: 200K Audi RS4 (B5)

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Zad

12,700 posts

236 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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I think I'd rather spend the same money or a bit less on a lower mileage B5 S4.

PUA

1,060 posts

159 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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As these cars are so highly tuned (stock and with modifications) I think you would need to know a good deal about high performance turboed cars before considering a purchase, its not the high mileage but the maintenance/modifications over the cars lifetime thats more important I reckon

alexaras

84 posts

197 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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Having just sold my Audi S4 2002...
These cars are truly amazing.
The build quality is fat superior from BMW and Mercedes. And I am a huge BMW fun.
The torgue of the motor is epic
The speed they can curry at all conditions is remarkable.
I will always remember going to the alps and doing 100-130 mph with a lot of snow (had winter tyres)...

BUT!!
If you have to replace the turbos...
You have to remove the engine. And I did have to replace the turbos on my S4 at 100000miles (ie 160000km)
Also there are various sensors that are hugely expensive and difficult to change that can fail
And if you have to change the exhaust... Well good luck finding a reasonable one for less than 1000gbp.

I had to do all these... And my car had one mature owner that used to service the car regularely.
Now I am going for a BMW 330Ci with same mileage and I am sure I will face less problems.
As I had less problems with all the E36 that I bought in England before with 7+ previous owners and 120k miles +


adz13091982

185 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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alexaras said:
I had to do all these... And my car had one mature owner that used to service the car regularely.
Now I am going for a BMW 330Ci with same mileage and I am sure I will face less problems.
As I had less problems with all the E36 that I bought in England before with 7+ previous owners and 120k miles +
The 330ci is bullet proof - 200,000 miles would be no problem.

scoobyrubes

12 posts

142 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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This car is two years off being shed of the week, would not touch a car with that sort of miles on it, can imagine any specialist rubbing there greedy hands together the moment it went wrong. Keep your money and buy something better.

rtz62

3,369 posts

155 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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Somebody forgotten to mention camshafts as well??? ££££££££
Waaaay overpriced; I know a guy in Sheffield who bought a mint circa 75k example for under £8000. £8000! Yep you read that right.
Would love one but the ability to corrupt me, absolutely is too much. And the ability to bankrupt me if aforementioned turbos, camshafts, suspension etc gives up the ghost.....

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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I love the look of the B5 RS4, if Audi had over engineered the car the same way they did the RS2 I'd have one as a daily, but plenty of adverts mention the thousands spent in the past eek, how fast can you afford to go.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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rtz62 said:
Somebody forgotten to mention camshafts as well??? ££££££££
Waaaay overpriced; I know a guy in Sheffield who bought a mint circa 75k example for under £8000. £8000! Yep you read that right.
Would love one but the ability to corrupt me, absolutely is too much. And the ability to bankrupt me if aforementioned turbos, camshafts, suspension etc gives up the ghost.....
I under £8k ?, every proper one I've ever seen advertised has been at least £10k, less than £8k and people are breaking them and making more.

Walter Sobchak

5,723 posts

224 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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Is this like the same era RS6 that has gearboxes made of glass and dodgy suspension?, as much as I think their great cars I was put off by the horror stories on the RS6 and went the AMG route instead, much more reliable engine and gearbox, more powerful and slightly quicker in standard form, the big minus is no Quattro though.

Good luck to whoever buys it but I wouldn't, it would be too much of a risk going wrong.

drybeer

957 posts

225 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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Walter Sobchak said:
Is this like the same era RS6 that has gearboxes made of glass and dodgy suspension?, as much as I think their great cars I was put off by the horror stories on the RS6 and went the AMG route instead, much more reliable engine and gearbox, more powerful and slightly quicker in standard form, the big minus is no Quattro though.

Good luck to whoever buys it but I wouldn't, it would be too much of a risk going wrong.
No - these are manual, don't have DRC suspension so don't have those issues and are lightning quick for the price.

The C5 RS6 does have some issues like that but if you're into them and prepared to do the work when required they're still VERY hard to beat…

Buy with confidence (once you've had it inspected - I would recommend MRC or Unit20) but in the knowledge a Y reg performance car of ANY sort is going to require a little TLC on a regular basis to make it drive the way it was meant to!

drybeer

957 posts

225 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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adz13091982 said:
alexaras said:
I had to do all these... And my car had one mature owner that used to service the car regularely.
Now I am going for a BMW 330Ci with same mileage and I am sure I will face less problems.
As I had less problems with all the E36 that I bought in England before with 7+ previous owners and 120k miles +
The 330ci is bullet proof - 200,000 miles would be no problem.
In fairness to the both of you - a 330Ci is hardly a very stressed performance car - infact in comparison to an RS4 is would be very slow.

You do still get what you pay for - personally I wouldn't go past quattro and turbo power - once you've had them very hard to replace.

KungFuPanda

4,333 posts

170 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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I bought a 2007 S6 with the V10 engine in November of last year. Had 88,000 miles on at the time and got it for £13500. Had a full Audi service history and prior to me buying it, it had all ten coil packs replaced under the recall, two new tyres and had the gearbox oil replaced due to a slight leak which was picked up on it's previous MOT.

In the past 10 months, all I've had to shell out for is an interim oil change for peace of mind which was £125 at an indie (it took 11 litres of fully synthetic) and a £32 rear bulb holder to replace one which threw up a few bulb errors.

It's in tremendous nick and the interior doesn't show any wear at all. This is my first high mileage car and I won't be put off buying another when the time comes.


ImDesigner

1,958 posts

194 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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KungFuPanda said:
(it took 11 litres of fully synthetic)
redface


KungFuPanda

4,333 posts

170 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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ImDesigner said:
redface
EuroCar Parts are now doing their own VAG specific 504/507 approved oil. With the current 30% discount, it's around £25 for a 5 litre bottle. I'm going to be stocking up soon.

annodomini2

6,861 posts

251 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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Changedmyname said:
Patrick Bateman said:
Is £7500 not a bit steep given the age and mileage?
Indeed and the price to feed it.
100k units go for around £10-11k, so £2.5-3.5k cheaper, does seem more of a bargain.

Great car, but when the S4 can be had for less than a quarter of the normal price and can be brought up to this spec with a more sleeper look. They do seem expensive.

chriswt

11 posts

201 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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iva cosworth said:
Ooh that M5 is niceyes

£7K spent refurbing,for sale at £7.5K
At least with the RS4 you'd be allowed to test drive it before stumping up the cash!!

KimZ

225 posts

214 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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chriswt said:
At least with the RS4 you'd be allowed to test drive it before stumping up the cash!!
Indeed - perhaps a bit suss, but then he is running it in...

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

163 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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chriswt said:
iva cosworth said:
Ooh that M5 is niceyes

£7K spent refurbing,for sale at £7.5K
At least with the RS4 you'd be allowed to test drive it before stumping up the cash!!
Just re-visited the Ebay listing for that,didn't read all of it earlier.

He's a bit precious over his car isn't he.

No drive = No buy

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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i would have an rs6 over this or an s4. At this mileage i would always be paronoid about something failing.

treetops

1,177 posts

158 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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The Crown Prince Dictator of Bork awaits you.

On the other hand, what could possibly go wrong?

I hope the new owner comes on here with a verdict...