RE: 991 Carrera 4 announced

[LuS1fer]

I love the fact that they feel the need to add a 911 badge.

I'll bet Chevy are kicking themselves, having spent so much time and effort to make the C6 as small as a 911 to find it's now bigger.

[Goron]

Do I read this story correctly that both the C4 and the C4S are now wide-bodied? I know the 996 C4 was narrow bodied, and think the same was true of the 997 C4.

[The Noise]

These will be great everyday cars. The 4wd make every iteration so much more useable in all conditions. Not the purest of the 911s but Porsche need to keep all the bases covered, and if they sell bucket loads (as they will) the money made will be guaranteeing GT3s etc will more than make up for the range fillers that are out there. The 'Standard' Carreras are fantastic cars and on an everyday winter/summer use basis, these will be just as good (speaking from experience). Unless your journey to work everyday takes the shape and demands of Silverstone, I don't think 8/10ths of the time you'd notice much difference.

The one model that I never really got was the Targa. That just shouts out money rinser to me. For me, it is just too compromised on all levels. Its a 911 just for the sake of it. Sunroof not good enough, get the soft top. But if they sell, great for Porsche.

Get the GT3 / GT3 RS out!

[ZesPak]

The Noise said:

The one model that I never really got was the Targa. That just shouts out money rinser to me. For me, it is just too compromised on all levels. Its a 911 just for the sake of it. Sunroof not good enough, get the soft top.

Funnily enough, I never liked 911 convertibles, but I like the look of the Targa .

[monthefish]

Is it a reflector strip or is it illuminated?

[SmartVenom]

Oh no another porsche story on pistonheads! GOOD! I want to read about performance cars not people carriers.

Just thought I'd get the retaliation in before the inevitable criticism.

[ZesPak]

monthefish said:

Is it a reflector strip or is it illuminated?

Says reflector strip.

Don't know if they may illuminate it at all.

The third brake light is integrated in rear vents, as it can be a max of .. cm from the roof line.

[MiseryStreak]

I've noticed that in recent months Pistonheads headlines seem to be slightly cynical. While I'm sure most people agree that the 911 variants are quite repetitive and predictable, it seems a bit hypocritical to write that 911s are getting a bit too grip fixated, we really don't need grippier ones, then follow it with a photo caption of 'Wake us up when the GT3 arrives'. The GT3 will undoubtedly be the grippiest of the lot. So do you want grip or not?

Perhaps if they did a bargain basement version with 215 section Pilot Primacy tyres so the grip runs out quite suddenly that would make all the purists happy? Or even a front wheel drive version? That will provide fk all traction with the engine in the boot.

[g3org3y]

bicycleshorts said:

doogz said:

em177 said:

Now. In my 21 years of being a massive 911 fan. This picture is the first ever pic. From any angle, of any 911 convertible variant that looks like something I'd consider buying!

The badges on the back look f-ing awful!

Agree, don't even look straight... A bit like someone has bought them from Halfords and stuck them on themselves.

Debadged it would look awesome though.

Agreed. Too jazzy busy.

[monthefish]

ZesPak said:

monthefish said:

Is it a reflector strip or is it illuminated?

Says reflector strip.

Saw that, but the pictures (especially the one on the Porsche uk front page) it certianly looks illuminated.

[monthefish]

housen said:

HeMightBeBanned said:

Captain Muppet said:

Or does 4WD add something other than a safety net?

Weight

understeer

traction

[Wills2]

Goron said:

Do I read this story correctly that both the C4 and the C4S are now wide-bodied? I know the 996 C4 was narrow bodied, and think the same was true of the 997 C4.

Both the 997 C4/C4S were wide bodied 1852mm vs. 1808mm C2/C2S

The 991 is the same C4/C4S 1852mm vs. 1808mm C2/C2S

[Wills2]

monthefish said:

ZesPak said:

monthefish said:

Is it a reflector strip or is it illuminated?

Says reflector strip.

Saw that, but the pictures (especially the one on the Porsche uk front page) it certianly looks illuminated.

It is illuminated according to the microsite. "the illuminated rear light strip"

Edited by Wills2 on Tuesday 28th August 12:31

[LayZ]

doogz said:

The badges on the back look f-ing awful!

Agree, the 911 script looks completely out of place.

[MarkRSi]

Martian O said:

Captain Muppet said:

....Also isn't this just the 911 for people who are scared of driving? Or does 4WD add something other than a safety net?

Nice to see you're living up to your name!

Too scared to get the GT2?

[Wills2]

LayZ said:

doogz said:

The badges on the back look f-ing awful!

Agree, the 911 script looks completely out of place.

No cost option to delete and I would as they do look bloody awful.

[edo]

I like it.

One question. Who in the press department of Porsche thinks it is a good idea to use Braaaaahn for the colour all the time?

[DrMekon]

Has the powerkit option (see configurator) been discussed elsewhere?

[foxhounduk]

beautiful car. stance is menacing. whats with the PORSCHE lettering though on the back? Looks like something from an American 50's diner.

[Numeric]

PAS!!

Now in my day that stood for Power Assisted Steering and in some instances was a cost option or marked the big difference between L and GL - sigh - happy and very simple days :-)