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British Beef
467 posts
34 months
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This will likely also be the last NA V8 M car you can buy with a proper (manual) box. This I find quite sad, I suspect all future M3s will be turbocharged autos.
I was close to changing my E39 M5 for the E90 M3, and apart from top end engine performance / noise, there was no other aspect I preferred. I didnt drive it long enough to get a good idea of mpg, but if you want economy dont get a v8.
Certainly not different or better enough to justify sinking an extra 20k into a car that has less space, torque and admitedly rust. New front wings, and a new boot lid will fix this, to tidy up the old girl.
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ghibbett
773 posts
54 months
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rosino said: Sorry but the M3 Coupe is much more glamorous.. and C63 ? Come on... one is for drag racing the other one is for proper drivings taking the weekend off to wales to enjoy their motor. I take it you've never driven a C63 then?
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Contigo
1,802 posts
78 months
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Honestly get an E6x for similar cash and there really is no comparison between the two. Drive the M3 first and then jump into the E60/61 and hit the M button, unleash all 507 horses and just get a feel for the SMG.
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Itsallicanafford
477 posts
28 months
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Leptons said: I went to london and back with my mate in his e46 M3 a couple of weeks ago. 85+ all the way there and back on £80 of fuel. Computer was showing 30+mpg.
400 mile round trip. ...Apologies, it was my brother who posted about his E46 CSL, i just wanted the opportunity to Publically call him a pussy... I am sure that you can achieve this as they are lighter than E90/92's...alot lighter in the case of a CSL
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stuart-b
2,588 posts
95 months
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daveco said: Just to clarify, people think the rear end of this car  is better looking than the coupe equivalent?   Exactly, never understood that, it's horrid. That's why I bought a Coupe 
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tomoleeds
344 posts
55 months
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Surley no one is going pay £25k plus for these M5 ,is it a old ad,you can buy the new shape M5 for £17k, i thought the old shape M5 did £6k the ones i have seen have been around that. E30M3SE said:
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maverick944
2 posts
99 months
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pjv997 said: I had an E90 M3 for three years and have had my 997s cab for over seven years now and so ran the two side by side. I reckon you will find the M3 and 997 very similar in terms of running costs (assuming you are looking at a 997.1?). Straight line performance is very similar, if anything the M3 has the edge - but, stating the obvious, the 997 is better on the twisty stuff, but by not such a margin that you would notice much unless you are on a track. Both are great cars - maybe you should get both! Start with a 997 which is further down the depreciation curve and switch to an M3 in a year or so. Yep, 997.1, been told to only consider the 3.8 S too. For my money that means 2005 latest compared to a 2009/10 M3. Though the mileage in most ads seems low so hardly used (of course if they're all track miles it's a different matter!). OPC cars with their 2 yr warranty are available which helps but it's still an oldish car, albeit of great quality. It's a good call, the chance to own such an iconic car appeals and it's bottom of a much more expensive range not top of a cheaper one. I do worry about what an M3 wil be worth in 4 years when it may have entered the chav zone though buying on a dealer PCP does protect somewhat. And those jibes about being in my 40s and buying a Porsche will just need to be brushed aside! Decisions, decisions...
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Chapppers
3,513 posts
60 months
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marson said: Chapppers said: This is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've read this year on Pistonheads. I hope it's a joke. i wish it was a joke, i was getting layed and getting paid all over the show ! s  t was crazy dog ! You're a joke.
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Baryonyx
6,876 posts
28 months
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daveco said: Just to clarify, people think the rear end of this car  is better looking than the coupe equivalent?   The saloon does look a bit better. It's a bit more 'muscular', to quote the vernacular that Peugeot were so fond of using when they still made good cars.
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mlhj83
92 posts
23 months
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Monkey  , I've the 2011 E92 DCT Competition Package and haven't not experienced the high driving position that some complained - I'm about average height. In fact, it's nice and low at the lowest seat position. I'm able to achieve 360miles to a tank on long motorway journeys and 270miles around town. Obviously, at the track, mpg goes way down, but what a delight it is. Perhaps the M3 improved quite a bit with the later models, as some mags have also noted. Check out one of my track videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruGnlq2WC0Q
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Gooly
492 posts
17 months
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Standard for standard the Coupe is MUCH better looking IMO; not only is the E90 rear end absolutely horrid with the pre LCI taillights, but also IMO the E92 front end doesn't suit it at all. The E90 is a more chiselled, aggressive shape whereas the E92 coupe is a flowing, sculptured shape. The elegant rounded front end of the E92 doesn't mesh with the rest of the E90 at all.
Oddly enough I think it looks great on the E91 on the few conversions I've seen though. The post LCI E90 M3 is also a very good looking car; still no match to the coupe though, especially in Imola red.
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CJP80
146 posts
17 months
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the-photographer said: Just to clarify, that is the EU weight which includes 75kg. A manual coupe weighs 1580kg, saloon 1605kg.
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Chapppers
3,513 posts
60 months
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mlhj83 said: Wow. Those gloves are pretty... YMCA
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jason61c
1,029 posts
43 months
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CJP80 said: Just to clarify, that is the EU weight which includes 75kg. A manual coupe weighs 1580kg, saloon 1605kg. Also all weights are without extra's, they're for a base/poverty spec car. Most will be nudging 1800+kg's
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CJP80
146 posts
17 months
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jason61c said: Also all weights are without extra's, they're for a base/poverty spec car.
Most will be nudging 1800+kg's The M3 has a lot of kit as standard, to be fair. I have a DCT with Competition Pack which includes EDC, 19's, adaptive lights, telematics and I weighed my car at 1624kg at the local weighbridge. It had about 10 litres of fuel in the tank - so I think the quoted weight also includes a full tank of fuel.
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s m
8,110 posts
72 months
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CJP80 said: jason61c said: Also all weights are without extra's, they're for a base/poverty spec car.
Most will be nudging 1800+kg's The M3 has a lot of kit as standard, to be fair. I have a DCT with Competition Pack which includes EDC, 19's, adaptive lights, telematics and I weighed my car at 1624kg at the local weighbridge. It had about 10 litres of fuel in the tank - so I think the quoted weight also includes a full tank of fuel. Autocar tested a manual M3 coupe - weight was 1625 kg. My local weighbridge has a tolerance of +/- 15kg IIRC
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PUA
1,056 posts
28 months
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for a 4door saloon car and a 25k budget I would take a c63 over the M3 any day. Looks better, is faster, more comfortable, one of the best sounding cars ever, only downside would be fuel economy
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the-photographer
830 posts
45 months
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CJP80 said: the-photographer said: Just to clarify, that is the EU weight which includes 75kg. A manual coupe weighs 1580kg, saloon 1605kg. Opps, yes, all the above figures included driver (75) and 90% fuel and other fluids. And thr IS-F weighs 1700kg (kerb whatever that means)
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the-photographer
830 posts
45 months
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CJP80 said: jason61c said: Also all weights are without extra's, they're for a base/poverty spec car.
Most will be nudging 1800+kg's The M3 has a lot of kit as standard, to be fair. I have a DCT with Competition Pack which includes EDC, 19's, adaptive lights, telematics and I weighed my car at 1624kg at the local weighbridge. It had about 10 litres of fuel in the tank - so I think the quoted weight also includes a full tank of fuel. 1625 75 (you-ish) 30 (40l fuel) 1730 as a comparison to the figures above
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HammyHamster
182 posts
41 months
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CJP80 said: Just to clarify, that is the EU weight which includes 75kg. A manual coupe weighs 1580kg, saloon 1605kg. The weight difference between the coupe and saloon is only 5kg if you don't specify a sunroof. Marketing hype for the coupe I'm afraid.
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