RE: PH Carpool: Ferrari F40 Michelotto
Discussion
TonyHetherington said:
This is a really rubbish question, but it's these little intricacies of mega-hyper-awesome car ownership that I love to know.
The pole that's holding the engine cover up - does it rest in the engine bay somewhere?
I recently spent a lot of time around Chris' Enzo (my friend resprayed it for him) and it had a little pole with it's own little resting place just behind the (rather loud!) exhausts for resting the engine cover on. As time went on and I spent longer with the car, it was these little things which really intrigued me; something you don't ever get to see or appreciate at a show, or the moment one passes you on the motorway. An "inside", if you will.
Folds into 2 and sits at rear bumper. Does make it very difficult to lift up by yourself and fix in position as alot of weight in the rear clip.The pole that's holding the engine cover up - does it rest in the engine bay somewhere?
I recently spent a lot of time around Chris' Enzo (my friend resprayed it for him) and it had a little pole with it's own little resting place just behind the (rather loud!) exhausts for resting the engine cover on. As time went on and I spent longer with the car, it was these little things which really intrigued me; something you don't ever get to see or appreciate at a show, or the moment one passes you on the motorway. An "inside", if you will.
fatboy69 said:
Apache said:
AL500BHP said:
I would buy a 288 GTO before an F40 given the choice.....just need that Lottery win first!
can't understand why 
Stuart said:
288 GTO and the F40 are the daddies for me. F50 looks like someone made it out of a bar of soap and I'm just generally not a fan of all that 90s soft shaped nonsense that came after stuff like the F40.
Not that I am in a position to choose which to buy, but I always saw the F50 shape as a hyper beach buggy, I can't get past that opinion even when seeing one in the metal, as it were.Stuart said:
288 GTO and the F40 are the daddies for me. F50 looks like someone made it out of a bar of soap and I'm just generally not a fan of all that 90s soft shaped nonsense that came after stuff like the F40.
I was of that opinion too for a while, however I think they are colour sensative as are most modern Ferraris.Take the Enzo, in red I think it is slighty gawky and quite flat sided with the rear not just quite right too wide and low. Dramatic yes, stunning looking piece of design, no. However in black I think it is absolutely stunning and appears to be a different car.
As for the F50, these two examples really help to show off how nice the car is...
http://www.joemacari.com/All-Cars-for-Sale/_prod_F...
http://www.joemacari.com/All-Cars-for-Sale/_prod_F...
If those two were in yellow or red, I wouldnt really bother with them. Im of the opinion that no modern Ferrari looks its best in Rosso. TDF Blue or Grigio Silverstone and now we are talking....
(Not affiliated to Joe Macari in any way, was the only way I knew how to get the pictures in the link)
Earlier in the year I was at a museum in Basel with a special Ferrari display.
There was an F40, F50, Enzo and 288 there (amongst others). It was good to have the side by side to compare.
Although from a technical and rarity perspective the F50 is probably much better than the F40. But purely from an aesthetic viewpoint the F40 is in a league of its own. Also for me much better than the Enzo (although in grey it looked much better to me than red ones I have seen). The 288 is also lovely but I prefer the F40. Just something special and unique, whereas you can see the 308/328 underlying the 288 (I know for some that is the appeal).
I'd be happy to own any of them though.
http://www.ferrarilife.com/forums/ferrari-discussi...
There was an F40, F50, Enzo and 288 there (amongst others). It was good to have the side by side to compare.
Although from a technical and rarity perspective the F50 is probably much better than the F40. But purely from an aesthetic viewpoint the F40 is in a league of its own. Also for me much better than the Enzo (although in grey it looked much better to me than red ones I have seen). The 288 is also lovely but I prefer the F40. Just something special and unique, whereas you can see the 308/328 underlying the 288 (I know for some that is the appeal).
I'd be happy to own any of them though.
http://www.ferrarilife.com/forums/ferrari-discussi...
JamieBeeston said:
That's akin to a wonderful saying I heard once..
You dont date a super model but not make love to her just so that she's a virgin for her next boyfriend!
I may or may not sell the car one day, however I see no reason what so ever to not drive the car just incase I put some miles or a scratch on her that a future owner may not like..
I specifically bought a car which wasnt a garage queen and with all the little things I'm having fixed on this due to driving and finding them, If I ever do sell the car, the next owner will likely have the most reliable F40 in the world!
Someone could just as easily vandalise it at a car show, or in my underground carpark.. I wont be held hostage to fear, I want the memories of the buzzing crackle of the exhausts as I plant my right foot and try to escape what sounds like a swarm of angry, monster hornets chasing immediately behind me.. I want the smell of hot oil in my nose and the exhilaration as i clack the box from second to third and light the rear wheels up in the dry purely on the throttle (as my Facebook mates will have seen!) I want the memory, the experience, the bonding.. not simply to look at a museum piece in awe (which I do as well!)
I'm looking at a 3500m trip over to the factory and back... i briefly contemplated the depreciation hit from the mileage, and then slapped myself for even starting to place that over the joy of the experience.
Dents can be fixed, scratches repaired, wheels refurbished.. but my memories of the moments when I'm in the car can never be taken away from me!
I do appreciate your comments, but ultimately I bought an F40 to drive an F40, to live the F40 experience.. If Enzo had wanted us to leave these in museums, he wouldn't have made the thing so bloody addictive
That's one of the best comments I've ever read on a car forum! The F40 is one of the most evocative cars ever created and while I do go weak at the knees at the sight of one, it's the noise they make and the thrill they so obviously give the driver that really captivates me (alas, I've never been in one, I've just watched many, many videos).You dont date a super model but not make love to her just so that she's a virgin for her next boyfriend!
I may or may not sell the car one day, however I see no reason what so ever to not drive the car just incase I put some miles or a scratch on her that a future owner may not like..
I specifically bought a car which wasnt a garage queen and with all the little things I'm having fixed on this due to driving and finding them, If I ever do sell the car, the next owner will likely have the most reliable F40 in the world!
Someone could just as easily vandalise it at a car show, or in my underground carpark.. I wont be held hostage to fear, I want the memories of the buzzing crackle of the exhausts as I plant my right foot and try to escape what sounds like a swarm of angry, monster hornets chasing immediately behind me.. I want the smell of hot oil in my nose and the exhilaration as i clack the box from second to third and light the rear wheels up in the dry purely on the throttle (as my Facebook mates will have seen!) I want the memory, the experience, the bonding.. not simply to look at a museum piece in awe (which I do as well!)
I'm looking at a 3500m trip over to the factory and back... i briefly contemplated the depreciation hit from the mileage, and then slapped myself for even starting to place that over the joy of the experience.
Dents can be fixed, scratches repaired, wheels refurbished.. but my memories of the moments when I'm in the car can never be taken away from me!
I do appreciate your comments, but ultimately I bought an F40 to drive an F40, to live the F40 experience.. If Enzo had wanted us to leave these in museums, he wouldn't have made the thing so bloody addictive
I don't blame you for driving it all the time and I actually had a very similar conversation with a friend a while ago about depreciation vs. driving enjoyment. It appears we all have the same opinion.
Duffman83 said:
Stuart said:
288 GTO and the F40 are the daddies for me. F50 looks like someone made it out of a bar of soap and I'm just generally not a fan of all that 90s soft shaped nonsense that came after stuff like the F40.
I was of that opinion too for a while, however I think they are colour sensative as are most modern Ferraris.Take the Enzo, in red I think it is slighty gawky and quite flat sided with the rear not just quite right too wide and low. Dramatic yes, stunning looking piece of design, no. However in black I think it is absolutely stunning and appears to be a different car.
As for the F50, these two examples really help to show off how nice the car is...
http://www.joemacari.com/All-Cars-for-Sale/_prod_F...
http://www.joemacari.com/All-Cars-for-Sale/_prod_F...
If those two were in yellow or red, I wouldnt really bother with them. Im of the opinion that no modern Ferrari looks its best in Rosso. TDF Blue or Grigio Silverstone and now we are talking....
(Not affiliated to Joe Macari in any way, was the only way I knew how to get the pictures in the link)
JamieBeeston said:
Yes, driven it every day since its been back, mostly around park lane / mayfair / NH.
These cars are meant to be driven, I dont want it to be a garage queen!
Think I saw you on the embankment today. You pulled away with some enthusiasm from the zebra crossing after my daughter and I crossed, It made our day. Thanks. These cars are meant to be driven, I dont want it to be a garage queen!
Edited by JamieBeeston on Wednesday 5th September 13:01
AllyBee said:
JamieBeeston said:
Yes, driven it every day since its been back, mostly around park lane / mayfair / NH.
These cars are meant to be driven, I dont want it to be a garage queen!
Think I saw you on the embankment today. You pulled away with some enthusiasm from the zebra crossing after my daughter and I crossed, It made our day. Thanks. These cars are meant to be driven, I dont want it to be a garage queen!
Edited by JamieBeeston on Wednesday 5th September 13:01
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