Passenger rear wheel rubbing

[aw51 121565]

General Madness said:

Hello,

Yes when parked up there would appear to be negative camber. However is this not dependant on the surface and positioning of the parked car?

Could you please explain what a radius arm bearing is and where it is located?

Thanks you for your help.

Right, to be more scientific about this you need to park on a flat surface (filling station forecourt, for example, or somewhere your spirit level shows to be more-or-less flat) so you're right - it depends on the angle of the surface the car is parked on . Try it on a properly flat surface?

Another poster has said that there aren't any radius arm bearings, and as I'm into Peugeots rather than Renaults I can't say any more on your car's set up .

And if you've got negative camber with the car parked on a level surface and the wheel bearing is OK then something has gone wrong.

One more point - when you checked the wheel bearing for play, the handbrake was OFF and not applied, wasn't it? If the handbrake has its own baby 'drum brake' (and I don't know the set up) then it would hide any wheel bearing play if it was 'on'. If it was 'on' then try the 'waggle check' as you did before with the handbrake 'off' and let us know the result .

[LuS1fer]

aw51 121565 said:

try the 'waggle check' as you did before with the handbrake 'off' and let us know the result .

[General Madness]

I am contemplating just spending some money on a rear end refresh.

I am looking for opinions on where my money would be best spent ? What components would be the greatest benefit?

Cheers for all the help so far.

Dave

[Leptons]

Mr2Mike said:

That would be quite remarkable if true - the Clio 172 does not have radius arm bearings.

It might not have radius arm bearings as such but for the wheel to be able to move up and down there will be some sort of bearing or bush that allows that movement (in an arc or radius).
IIRC the rear suspension is one complete beam with spring cups rather than torsion bars so to swap it all you will need to do is disconnect brake lines, handbrake cable, back box and shock absorbers and drop the whole thing down. This is how I got around a similar problem on a 205 GTI. It took about a day on axle stands.
The challenge is finding a good second hand one though.

[General Madness]

This product has come to my attention www.pure-motorsport.co.uk/details.php?itemid=120

Would this be overkill for a road car? I believe the standard bushes are around this price.

[General Madness]

Sorry, forgot to add that I am willing to take a risk and just replace these to see how I get on. It would be an improvement even if it doesn't solve the issue.

[Krikkit]

Looks like a good kit, but can you weld?

If not I'd just get new bushes, these ones have lasted 10 years.

[General Madness]

Krikkit said:

Looks like a good kit, but can you weld?

If not I'd just get new bushes, these ones have lasted 10 years.

I cannot personally weld but I do have at least 3 acquaintances who can.

I do see what you mean about the standard bushes. I guess these bearing ones would require some sort of maintenance in a ten year period.

Cheers

[The Wookie]

General Madness said:

This product has come to my attention www.pure-motorsport.co.uk/details.php?itemid=120

Would this be overkill for a road car? I believe the standard bushes are around this price.

That would be horrid on the road, and I suspect wouldn't last particularly long either.

[aw51 121565]

LuS1fer said:

aw51 121565 said:

try the 'waggle check' as you did before with the handbrake 'off' and let us know the result .

[aw51 121565]

General Madness said:

I am contemplating just spending some money on a rear end refresh.

I am looking for opinions on where my money would be best spent ? What components would be the greatest benefit?

Cheers for all the help so far.

Dave

As I asked at the top of the page, did your car have its handbrake applied (the lever pulled up) when you checked the rear suspension for play on axle stands? If the handbrake WAS applied when you last checked, try it all again with the handbrake OFF (the lever 'down' as if driving). Make sure the front wheel on the same side is 'chocked' so it can't move forwards or backwards as well.

Please try this, with the wheel still on, and then get back to us .

[Krikkit]

The Wookie said:

General Madness said:

This product has come to my attention www.pure-motorsport.co.uk/details.php?itemid=120

Would this be overkill for a road car? I believe the standard bushes are around this price.

That would be horrid on the road, and I suspect wouldn't last particularly long either.

I can see your concerns about longevity, but comfort is pretty moot - the axle is still bushed to the chassis, and this is a purely rotary rather than suspended part.

That said, if the bearings did go they'd be very easily replaced, and at pretty reasonable cost too.

OP: Once you've finished the test suggested above, if you still think it's the arm I'd be tempted to try the kit. Have you found anyone using it on various owners clubs?

[The Wookie]

Krikkit said:

I can see your concerns about longevity, but comfort is pretty moot - the axle is still bushed to the chassis, and this is a purely rotary rather than suspended part.

You would be amazed how much those bushes filter out and how much they do in general. Trust me, solidly mounting them would be horrid.

[Mr2Mike]

The Wookie said:

You would be amazed how much those bushes filter out and how much they do in general. Trust me, solidly mounting them would be horrid.

[curlie467]

Mr2Mike said:

The Wookie said:

You would be amazed how much those bushes filter out and how much they do in general. Trust me, solidly mounting them would be horrid.