RE: 1.0-litre Formula Ford laps Norschleife in 7:22

RE: 1.0-litre Formula Ford laps Norschleife in 7:22

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The Wookie

13,948 posts

228 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Captain Muppet said:
Some CR311 are e-marked apparently:

http://www.mrtyremotorsport.co.uk/dunlop-cr311-his...
Yep we just spotted that, quite possibly legal although right on the skinny edge of it!

And of course they used the road legal compound rather than the super sticky rally job hehe

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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The Wookie said:
Captain Muppet said:
Some CR311 are e-marked apparently:

http://www.mrtyremotorsport.co.uk/dunlop-cr311-his...
Yep we just spotted that, quite possibly legal although right on the skinny edge of it!

And of course they used the road legal compound rather than the super sticky rally job hehe
If you're not nearly breaking the rules you're not really trying biggrin

Chilliman

11,992 posts

161 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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The worlds getting too high tech and Eco friendly for me. Think I'll stick with the 5 ltr V8 and 15mpg (if I'm lucky) smile

dingocooke

670 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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y2blade said:
Imagine how quick that would be around the Isle of man TT course bow

it'd blow the bikes away!
...until it got to the seriously 'bumpetty' bit (copyright Joey Dunlop) after Ginger Hall; enough to break a Formula Ford I think!!

coppice

8,610 posts

144 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Renomaxi said:
I have said this before the engine makes minimal difference, a zetec engined formula ford or even a Kent engine would still show any road car the way round. One of our customers entertained us by taking his Bugatti veyron around donington park on a test day and we gave him a reality check by going around 3 seconds quicker in a 100bhp formula ford! People, road cars are exactly that whether you twist and tune them they are a compromised package and pretty much any single seater will destroy them.
You beat me to it; if anybody's source of info on the relative speed of cars is based on what they watch on Top Gear they are in for a heel of a shock if they realised what even a cheap and old single seater can do compared to bedroom wall fantasies like Veyrons. Much as I like the idea of the Ecoboost this stunt is nearly all down to the chassis. Brilliant marketing though...

ADM06

1,077 posts

172 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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A dedicated racing car is faster than some roads cars? Well stone the crows.

chuntington101

5,733 posts

236 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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coppice said:
Renomaxi said:
I have said this before the engine makes minimal difference, a zetec engined formula ford or even a Kent engine would still show any road car the way round. One of our customers entertained us by taking his Bugatti veyron around donington park on a test day and we gave him a reality check by going around 3 seconds quicker in a 100bhp formula ford! People, road cars are exactly that whether you twist and tune them they are a compromised package and pretty much any single seater will destroy them.
You beat me to it; if anybody's source of info on the relative speed of cars is based on what they watch on Top Gear they are in for a heel of a shock if they realised what even a cheap and old single seater can do compared to bedroom wall fantasies like Veyrons. Much as I like the idea of the Ecoboost this stunt is nearly all down to the chassis. Brilliant marketing though...
Totally agree, however its still pretty cool and a great idea! hmmm how about making some of the old 1.6 Zetec cars into road cars with 2.0 ltr Durtecs in the back? smile

Renomaxi

39 posts

144 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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ADM06 said:
A dedicated racing car is faster than some roads cars? Well stone the crows.
Shock horror! 1 litre formula ford laps nurburgring with the 11th fastest time ever! Stone the crows.

You missed the point

Russ Bost

456 posts

209 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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chuntington101 said:
Totally agree, however its still pretty cool and a great idea! hmmm how about making some of the old 1.6 Zetec cars into road cars with 2.0 ltr Durtecs in the back? smile
We've already done this on the last page "Anyone that kids themselves that putting a Formula Ford or any other race car on the road is easy is a fool (believe me, I've done it) by the time you've changed the suspension to get a sensible ride height, changed steering wheel/column/brakes & seat belt mountings to comply with IVA regs & then added stuff like handbrake/lights/indicators/& control equipment for same it's far easier & cheaper to start with something that was designed as a road car (albeit looking at a glance like a race car) in the first place."

Only way it can be done for anything like sensible money is to do it yourself from scratch (something sadly well beyond most people) or buy a kit

scarble

5,277 posts

157 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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Chilliman said:
The worlds getting too high tech and Eco friendly for me. Think I'll stick with the 5 ltr V8 and 15mpg (if I'm lucky) smile
You're missing the point that it's putting out 200hp/ltr, that's pretty impressive. The reduced weight is obviously good for handling too. It's not even a hybrid or anything.

Greg_D

6,542 posts

246 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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Russ Bost said:
chuntington101 said:
Totally agree, however its still pretty cool and a great idea! hmmm how about making some of the old 1.6 Zetec cars into road cars with 2.0 ltr Durtecs in the back? smile
We've already done this on the last page "Anyone that kids themselves that putting a Formula Ford or any other race car on the road is easy is a fool (believe me, I've done it) by the time you've changed the suspension to get a sensible ride height, changed steering wheel/column/brakes & seat belt mountings to comply with IVA regs & then added stuff like handbrake/lights/indicators/& control equipment for same it's far easier & cheaper to start with something that was designed as a road car (albeit looking at a glance like a race car) in the first place."

Only way it can be done for anything like sensible money is to do it yourself from scratch (something sadly well beyond most people) or buy a kit
it's the little things that cost the money! my 2.1 zetec turbo powered, road legal example example has burst through it's bodywork somewhat, a little reshaping may be necessary but should be fun when it is completed and mapped later this month.


c7borg

11 posts

169 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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RobCrezz said:
I reckon 5k is optimistic for that engine + install. But its a good idea! smile
Not really, you can buy the engine for sub £1k now, wiring loom £100.. after market management £500 a days mapping £350.. if you're a bit handy with the tools you just need to fabricate some mounts find out which gearbox mates up, personally I think you would have change from £5k smile

c7borg

11 posts

169 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Greg_D said:
it's the little things that cost the money! my 2.1 zetec turbo powered, road legal example example has burst through it's bodywork somewhat, a little reshaping may be necessary but should be fun when it is completed and mapped later this month.
Maybe you should have bought the 999cc engine it might have just squeezed under the body work and you wouldn't have to fight so hard with the SVA man(or woman) smile

c7borg

11 posts

169 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Just to make three posts in a row... does anyone know what other gear box may fit these?

TonyRPH

12,972 posts

168 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Greg_D said:
it's the little things that cost the money! my 2.1 zetec turbo powered, road legal example example has burst through it's bodywork somewhat, a little reshaping may be necessary but should be fun when it is completed and mapped later this month.

Your headlamps are facing the wrong way smile

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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c7borg said:
RobCrezz said:
I reckon 5k is optimistic for that engine + install. But its a good idea! smile
Not really, you can buy the engine for sub £1k now...
Where from? A few searches and I can't even find a price for a 1.0 Ecoboost. Are there even any in breakers yet?

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Someone should fire one of these around the Isle of Man TT course to shut the motorbike fanbois up!

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RB Will

9,664 posts

240 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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quiet you! Its not that time of year yet tongue out

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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RB Will said:
quiet you! Its not that time of year yet tongue out
I'm warming up biggrin

otolith

56,135 posts

204 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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RB Will said:
quiet you! Its not that time of year yet tongue out
Besides, racing car drivers are like vampires and can't cross running water, or something.