RE: 1.0-litre Formula Ford laps Norschleife in 7:22
Discussion
Captain Muppet said:
According to PH (who I assume quote the Ford press release) "nearly 160mph"
Missed that, and indeed probably about 60mph faster than I'd like to be travelling in a Formula Ford given the fantasy of me actually being able to fit in one.Having said that, that new car doesn't look as precarious as I remember.
VladD said:
RobCrezz said:
900T-R said:
OK,
Buy well used Formula Ford £ 5-10K
Engine install £5K?
IVA stuff (lights, mirrors, cycle wings etc) - £3K?
Sounds a 'cheap' way to get into an extreme track day toy...
I reckon 5k is optimistic for that engine + install. But its a good idea! Buy well used Formula Ford £ 5-10K
Engine install £5K?
IVA stuff (lights, mirrors, cycle wings etc) - £3K?
Sounds a 'cheap' way to get into an extreme track day toy...
Engine install £5K?
...(do nothing)...
Sounds a 'cheap' way to get into an extreme track day toy...
julian64 said:
Captain Muppet said:
So you're saying Ford are lying? That it can't be true because you don't understand it?
Thats right muppet. All there in the words for anyone to read.However, now you've called me on it muppet, I can see Ford have absolutely no reason to lie, so I don't know what could have come over me.
Do accept my sincere appologies for believing Ford might just have a motive for telling a few porkies here.
I think these would work quite well in kit cars.
Let's face it, BEC suffer from low down tourque (apparently - as I've never been in one....) so can't see it been any worse.
Register it as a new build (yes you'll need a cat etc.) but the road tax will be really low!
Also as you can buy crated duratecs and zetec's I'm guessing Ford will be punting these out at some point too.
Let's face it, BEC suffer from low down tourque (apparently - as I've never been in one....) so can't see it been any worse.
Register it as a new build (yes you'll need a cat etc.) but the road tax will be really low!
Also as you can buy crated duratecs and zetec's I'm guessing Ford will be punting these out at some point too.
Bill said:
julian64 said:
Hmmmm.
500Kg, and only 200hp. I think that equals the fastest motorcycle that runs about 200bhp and weighs about 170kg.
Can I be the first to say don't believe it.
Four flat contact patches... so vastly better braking and cornering.500Kg, and only 200hp. I think that equals the fastest motorcycle that runs about 200bhp and weighs about 170kg.
Can I be the first to say don't believe it.
julian64 said:
Well I think the differences would be the motorcycle dissapearing into the distance on any sort of straight by means of its vastly better power weight ratio, and the ford having to catch up with truely collosal cornering speed on tread pattern tyres.
I don't see it myself. Ionly posted up the bike info because it shows that the ford has a Power to Weight of 400bhp/ton. I should think there are rather a lot of cars now approaching that sort of power to weight with nowhere that sort of time.
In my mind it doesn't seem to fit.
This thing will monster a bike through the corners. Brake later, carry more speed, back on the power sooner. It's only ~30 seconds quicker than a Caterham R500 and has vastly less aero drag to help on the quick bits. It's seems a pretty realistic time to me.I don't see it myself. Ionly posted up the bike info because it shows that the ford has a Power to Weight of 400bhp/ton. I should think there are rather a lot of cars now approaching that sort of power to weight with nowhere that sort of time.
In my mind it doesn't seem to fit.
It’s only impressive due to the claimed economy in a Focus (it’s probably very economical for a track car but who the hell considers economy when on track?). 205bhp from a 1l turbo is good going and will be rapid in a single-seater. Although F1 were running nearly 1300bhp from 1.4 turbos 30years ago…..
doogz said:
TEKNOPUG said:
It’s only impressive due to the claimed economy in a Focus (it’s probably very economical for a track car but who the hell considers economy when on track?). 205bhp from a 1l turbo is good going and will be rapid in a single-seater. Although F1 were running nearly 1300bhp from 1.4 turbos 30years ago…..
1.5 turbos, and for a few minutes at a time, because they'd not last any longer.hairykrishna said:
This thing will monster a bike through the corners. Brake later, carry more speed, back on the power sooner. It's only ~30 seconds quicker than a Caterham R500 and has vastly less aero drag to help on the quick bits. It's seems a pretty realistic time to me.
This. For every opportunity the bike will get to nail it the car will be braking later and carrying more speed in the first place.Bear in mind this is a race car with some token lights and it's completely believable.
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