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LaurasOtherHalf

7,631 posts

76 months

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Monday 24th September 2012 quote quote all
You know for all it's foibles, I'll really miss my M coupe when it goes.

It just has so much character.

It's going to go in the next couple of months I guess but usually when I'm thinking like this I know exactly what will replace it but I think I'm only down to about 6 or 7 alternatives!


GroundEffect

7,793 posts

36 months

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Monday 24th September 2012 quote quote all
Oh my god I want that intake. That is ridiculous - nearly 380PS!

I'll put it on my wishlist to Santa biggrin

smilo996

392 posts

50 months

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Tuesday 25th September 2012 quote quote all
Much prefer the original one. Not as an open top. Great engine, looks good, decent boot.
Modern alternative would be a 135i.

fridaypassion

2,487 posts

108 months

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Tuesday 25th September 2012 quote quote all
Had to double check the date want April 1st for a second there. Z4M not dynamically superior to an m3? If this article wasn't credited to Chris Harris I'd cry foul it was written by someone who hasn't driven one or both of these cars. Having owned both they are like chalk and cheese. The m3 is like a poorly sprung barge to the pointy Z4M which always feels faster and more nimble.

Serious drivers always look to brake and suspension upgrades to make the m3 feel viable. No need in the Z4M.....

LaurasOtherHalf

7,631 posts

76 months

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Tuesday 25th September 2012 quote quote all
fridaypassion said:
Had to double check the date want April 1st for a second there. Z4M not dynamically superior to an m3? If this article wasn't credited to Chris Harris I'd cry foul it was written by someone who hasn't driven one or both of these cars. Having owned both they are like chalk and cheese. The m3 is like a poorly sprung barge to the pointy Z4M which always feels faster and more nimble.

Serious drivers always look to brake and suspension upgrades to make the m3 feel viable. No need in the Z4M.....
that's an interesting point actually, i found my M3 to be sweeter in the handling department that the Z4M coupe,though it was the CSL version ( i had it running conti road tyres & a fast road geo mind you so pretty comparable)

as many have said it just felt easier on the limit (less prone to snap into over steer & much easier to catch), but the Z, for all it's quirks still has that something about it.

maybe there is some truth to the whole challenge of a trickier car?

incidently i loved my CSL but it didn't last long with me as i hated the gearbox, one of the main reasons i love the ZM is the fact you get that engine & diff mated to a manual box.

it also helps no end that it just looks so right too!
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fridaypassion

2,487 posts

108 months

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Tuesday 25th September 2012 quote quote all
The CSL is a different beast to the regular M3. The z4 comes as standard with the improved brakes from the csl interestingly.

sennasurgeon

13 posts

32 months

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Tuesday 25th September 2012 quote quote all
I can only go by what has been written in Evo Novnember 2007 " Greatest M-Car ever test? "

After 2 days of testing with 12 M cars Catchpole et al stated:

"Z4 M Coupe (2006-Present)"
Like the original M Coupe, it's not a cutting-edge drivers' car, getting a bit ragged over difficult surfaces...........Will it make the cut? Probably not. 'The old girl (Z3M Coupe) gets my vote in the battle of the Coupes,' says Green. 'You have to dig that bit deeper to find the new car's spirit' "

The final selection: E92 M3, E46 M3 CSL, E39 M5, M1, E30 M3 Sport Evo.

"it's the E30 that beats them all. It wins because it does more with less and destroys the idea that if power is good, more power must be better"

I suspect that is what Harris is getting at???

DodoRacing

377 posts

87 months

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Thursday 27th September 2012 quote quote all
VLN (German endurance race championship at Nurburgring/Nordschleife) overall as well as production cup (unmodified cars) winner in the 2011 series after 10 grueling endurance races can not be that bad?

http://www.vln.de/newsausgabe.gb.php?id=2825

Asterix

19,393 posts

108 months

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Thursday 27th September 2012 quote quote all
How many works Caymans did they go up against?

Edit: I'll add to that: The above is a great result but I'm pissed that Porsche won't develop Cayman as a racing platform. We all know why though.

Edited by Asterix on Thursday 27th September 07:44

DodoRacing

377 posts

87 months

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Friday 28th September 2012 quote quote all
Asterix said:
How many works Caymans did they go up against?

Edit: I'll add to that: The above is a great result but I'm pissed that Porsche won't develop Cayman as a racing platform. We all know why though.

Edited by Asterix on Thursday 27th September 07:44
There are several groups in the VLN (I believe 27 in 2012) with an average of 200 cars starting each race. The production cars (serieswagen) category is near-stock. No factory development whatsoever. The overall winner is calculated based on a formula which includes the size of the group the car is competing (for e.g. a 2nd place in a group of 5 cars scores equal to a 1st place in a group of 3 cars) and the results achieved over the entire season. This system is proven over the years to be fair for a race with such a diverse participation. So, a standard car like Z4 can come on top of factory supported Porsche GT3 RSRs, Audi R8s, Mercedes SLSs or BMW Motorsport Z4s.

wheelsmith

138 posts

22 months

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Friday 28th September 2012 quote quote all
Going to have to say Harris has got this wrong

Owned a Z4MC and Cayman S and easily preferred the Z4. The Cayman makes any idiot a driving God, and while I am quite heavenly, a driving God Im not.
Something which became patently obvious when I jumped in the seat of the Z4 from the Cayman, the car doesn't flatter and requires a comical firm hand to drive fast. Once up to speed it's was just as fast my 06 cayman on A-B roads, Straight roads its even quicker.

I'm not particular partisan for either brand, but I'd have a Z4M Coupe again and I don't feel the same way about the Porsche

CooperS

3,011 posts

99 months

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Friday 28th September 2012 quote quote all
Has Chris been back on to answer some of the owners / people's views and questions?

alexf65

2 posts

19 months

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Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
I hope not to be too late on this topic.

I am an owner of a Z4M Coupè and of a Z3 Coupé 3.0 and previously I owned a Lotus Exige.

My personal opinion belongs just on a question. Why if you talk about a 911 you always listen to people saying that you have to learn it to drive proprerly as it has(without any doubt) a wrong wheight distribution. Why the same couldn't apply for the Z4M? Someone here said before that you have to know this car a little to exploit his character and I totally agree. Only after some time you can understand how it behaves and how to have proper fun with it.

In addition to that do not forget that this car is very very sensible to a proper alignment of toe and camber and little adjustemnts can make big differences.

I am very happy to have a difficult car to drive and to understand, it makes me more happy when I discover what I can achieve (mainly on track) with it.

Herman Toothrot

5,516 posts

78 months

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Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
All this talk of Z4 coupes and being rare, choosen for what they are by enthusiasts rather than joe blogs etc.. I see dozens about they are really very, very common in these parts Oxfordshire / Berkshire I see as many as I do Caymans easily, if not more.

sealtt

67 posts

38 months

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Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
b14 said:
The primary reason I'd have this over an E46 M3 is because I live in South East London, where M3s are driven by drug dealers alone.

I agree with the other sentiments though, the E46 M3 is in my view more desirable in every respect, except possibly image.
Haha. I remember being ready to pull the trigger on an E46 M3, then spending about 1 month living near Mile End... ended up saving to get an E92 M3 instead!

miln0039

1,911 posts

38 months

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Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
Herman Toothrot said:
All this talk of Z4 coupes and being rare, choosen for what they are by enthusiasts rather than joe blogs etc.. I see dozens about they are really very, very common in these parts Oxfordshire / Berkshire I see as many as I do Caymans easily, if not more.
Funny, seems to me like I see another Z4 Coupe like mine only very rarely. And when I do, it's one of the same three I keep seeing locally.

CooperS

3,011 posts

99 months

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Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
Herman Toothrot said:
All this talk of Z4 coupes and being rare, choosen for what they are by enthusiasts rather than joe blogs etc.. I see dozens about they are really very, very common in these parts Oxfordshire / Berkshire I see as many as I do Caymans easily, if not more.
Hmm agreed that in certain locations they seem very popular (a number in Edinburgh both Coupes and Roadsters which is a bit like Focus RS very few in Farnham where i also live but 10's up in the Edinburgh/Dunfermline area) however are you sure your not seeing vinilla coupes.

Think its been covered but i think there is less than a 1000 Z4MC on UK streets so not exactly on par with Caymans

pilchardthecat

7,077 posts

59 months

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Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
CooperS said:
Think its been covered but i think there is less than a 1000 Z4MC on UK streets so not exactly on par with Caymans
Yup, just 550 M coupes and 617 M roadsters were sold in the UK

The rarest of all is the one alpine white M Roadster, known as The Unicorn. There are several fake unicorns with white wraps though smile



miln0039

1,911 posts

38 months

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Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
CooperS said:
however are you sure your not seeing vinilla coupes.
People who can't spell vanilla shouldn't throw stones....

ETA - in a non petulant a factual addition from How Many Left.

Z4 Coupe 3.0si - 395 taxed; 3 SORN'ed

Sounds like they are more rare in the UK than the M per those statistics.

Edited by miln0039 on Tuesday 2nd October 14:11

Pulse

9,616 posts

98 months

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Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
miln0039 said:
CooperS said:
however are you sure your not seeing vinilla coupes.
People who can't spell vanilla shouldn't throw stones....

ETA - in a non petulant a factual addition from How Many Left.

Z4 Coupe 3.0si - 395 taxed; 3 SORN'ed

Sounds like they are more rare in the UK than the M per those statistics.

Edited by miln0039 on Tuesday 2nd October 14:11
That seems like a very low figure.
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