RE: Peugeot facelifts RCZ...

[Fire99]

To be fair, for what it is, It' looks pretty good. Makes a nice change from yet another VW Sirocco looky-likey or MINI Contryman, Slighlydifferentcountryman,slighlyuglierslightlydifferentcountryman.

260bhp 1.6? I remember people being impressed with 200bhp from the 2.0 'Cossie'. Will probably be good for 100k miles too.

[va1o]

Only subtle differences but it looks smart. Residuals on these are holding out quite well so far

[Twincam16]

garypotter said:

AAAAARGH more ruddy led daylights, why oh why oh why do cars need lights on during the day???

Because the EU thinks it's better if bikers are harder to see

[boardtweet]

Its not a bad looking car to be fair much nicer than the old RCZ but what is going on with the Steering wheel it looks like something lifted out of the parts bin when they stopped making the 306 of the late 1990's....

The only other thing that lets it down in the plastic feel when you sit in one, you really know its not the best coupe out there just toooo much plastic and not enough 'german' quality to the interior feel me thinks apart from that a decent looking car.....still a hairdressers car though!

[mr2j]

Twincam16 said:

Not according to any review I've read. Certainly more lively than anything Peugeot has done in its recent past.

I think I'm probably quite closed minded but front-drive sports coupé always sounds wrong to me. I'm sure it's great for cruising and pushing on but I'm sad about the fact that within the span of my projected lifetime at some point all new cars will be front-drive or 4WD powertrains and some regulation will be passed that says RWD is nolonger safe for PLG-classed vehicles or some such nonsense.

[Maldini35]

I think it's a big improvement.

R version sounds interesting but I worry the price might put it up against some pretty stiff competition.

[MyCC]

Have to agree that this is one of the best looking coupes on the market within this price range. We have one on test at the moment and it goes well and has nice direct steering. It makes the TT look awfully boring.

Regards,

MyCC

[y2blade]

F1GTRUeno said:

Taking just the shape and general look of the lights and grille, it kinda reminds me of a DBS.





Horribly ugly though it always was.

EDIT - NVM, was just the thumbnail that reminded me, looks nothing like it at all.

Edited by F1GTRUeno on Wednesday 12th September 11:10

Your edit made me chuckle.

[Jimmy No Hands]

Was very underwhelmed by the engine in the current one, always thought it needed a bit more oomph to match the aggressive looks. 260 is decent.

[Thejimreaper]

More for posing than driving really, they do look good in real life. Not sure I would want one though.

[J4CKO]

This is actually produced by Audi, to give TT owners even more Smugness.

I quite like it, and if the RCZ is the "Aldi TT" where does that put Audi in the pecking order supermarket wise, they are not quite Waitrose are they, so that must mean it is the Sainsbury's or Tesco TT.

Edited by J4CKO on Wednesday 12th September 12:28

[durbster]

IDrinkPetrol said:

Does nothing to fix the biggest stylistic issue that it has: the enormous overhangs. Probably explains why no pics in profile...

That's true but it does mean it has a huge boot, which is probably more important to most buyers.

I like it. By far the best car Peugeot have made since the 306.

[mat205125]

Forget the styling ... Has anyone on here driven or bought one?

I like the concept, but interested to know if they are an entertaining drive or not.

[Twincam16]

mr2j said:

Twincam16 said:

Not according to any review I've read. Certainly more lively than anything Peugeot has done in its recent past.

I think I'm probably quite closed minded but front-drive sports coupé always sounds wrong to me. I'm sure it's great for cruising and pushing on but I'm sad about the fact that within the span of my projected lifetime at some point all new cars will be front-drive or 4WD powertrains and some regulation will be passed that says RWD is nolonger safe for PLG-classed vehicles or some such nonsense.

I see what you're getting at, but FWD has little to do with safety and far more to do with the ease with which platforms can be shared with FWD packages. You can make them longer or shorter without needing to re-engineer a propshaft every time, plus you can get away with only semi-independent rear suspension. It's all about cost really. You can spin an entire range off one floorplan, whereas if they were all RWD, it'd need re-engineering every time. It's one of the reasons why BMW, Lexus, Infiniti and Mercedes are more expensive than FWD rivals and why Toyota could only justify the GT86 if it was joint-engineered and also sold as a Subaru.

Thing is, a lot of road manners are down to the setup. Conventional wisdom will tell you that double-wishbones and coil springs are the only choice for a faithful-handling road car given their use on racers, but Lotus has rarely if ever used that setup (they prefer a combination of Macpherson and Chapman struts for lightness as upper wishbones are heavy and if you can set the locator arms up properly they're just as effective), and Porsche persisted with lever-arm dampers right up to 1989 (they're the sort of things you expect to find on cuddly little 1950s British saloons). It's all in the setup.

[sodslaw]

surprised more people haven't yapped about the engine..

Are peugeot finally getting the right idea? All of their vehicles have been vastly under powered for petrolheads in recent years


260bhp 1.6 hot hatch anyone?

[ezi]

Is that a bulb under the front badge, in the grille? Looks like one of those lights Police have on their cars.

[Twincam16]

sodslaw said:

surprised more people haven't yapped about the engine..

Are peugeot finally getting the right idea? All of their vehicles have been vastly under powered for petrolheads in recent years


260bhp 1.6 hot hatch anyone?

I know! All people bang on about with BMWs is how specific power output somehow makes them the best cars in the universe ever, but this Peugeot (which IIRC was joint-developed with BMW anyway) beats it!

[tommy vercetti]

I think its a pretty good looking car

[jason61c]

J4CKO said:

This is actually produced by Audi, to give TT owners even more Smugness.

I quite like it, and if the RCZ is the "Aldi TT" where does that put Audi in the pecking order supermarket wise, they are not quite Waitrose are they, so that must mean it is the Sainsbury's or Tesco TT.

Edited by J4CKO on Wednesday 12th September 12:28

I'd say the the TT is more like the Morrison's.

[The Nur]

It has the automotive equivalent of this guys chin: