RE: You Know You Want To: Honda S2000

RE: You Know You Want To: Honda S2000

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Hellbound

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2,500 posts

177 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Having read the entire thread I actually feel put off by it now.

Being a gentleman I'd probably pay more for a torquier 3.0 Z4 or even a perfectly balanced Boxster S. None of this never ending modifying shinanigans for me. I find modded S2000's bring down the image somewhat. A discrete exhaust and air filter are about as far as I'd go with any car really. Maybe a remap too.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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RocketRabbit said:
The engines are by no means bulletproof and average age of an engine is ~130k before they blow.
What is this based on?

What do you mean by "blow"?

Cheers,
PP

joe_90

4,206 posts

232 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Mine was normally 180miles to a tank... smile Petrol was half the price..

Great great car..... I had it 3 or 4 year, track days etc etc, bar its relentless need for tyres and petrol it was flawless. Only span it once on a track day, and it went bloody quick.. The second time it went I caught it.. even the instructor in the car said 'great catch'..

A long long time ago..




Currently have a Megane Cup 225, (kids now so need space in my car as well as the family car), and its easier to drive and the power is much more accessible, but the s2000 was a great car..

Askmid shows it as uninsured.. so hopefully, its not dead.. frown

Edited by joe_90 on Friday 14th September 09:48

Riknos

4,700 posts

205 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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I'm no driving god, but I found the handling to be superb and very predictable, I've not had one on track though.

I personally found the engine hard work, and it would take me a long time to get used to the split personality of a vtec engine, but it is a great laugh and they really are a lot of car for the money.

sanj7

6 posts

234 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Gorbyrev said:
Somewhere in the back of my memory is a stat that says over 1,000,000 V-TEC engines made and not a single warranty claim. Bit thirsty (what to expect from 9000rpm), high insurance group but great car for the money. Two neighbours have them. One of them has a sobering / fun story about spinning on a roundabout. Perhaps a great 8/10th car? Can't grumble for £4000 as you'll get a lot of that back at sale time. Didn't Vicky BH run one of these?
The figure is actually 13 million vtec engines sold without a single failure in a warranty period. Well that was the figure in 2004 when I did some work for Honda, so expect that's gone up since!

britsportscars

281 posts

179 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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I've got a Nurburgring Blue 04 GT. Traded in my old CTR for it and got it in Jan 2012.

Lovely looking thing (Love the colour) and the engine is completely bonkers. I initially had a test drive of a similar spec car last year sometime. The dealer was busy with other customers and just chucked me the keys biggrin That was awesome!! I just revved it up and down through the gears, and even something as simple as that seemed incredible. My old CTR had a great gearchange, but the S2000 is on another level.

The car is still growing on me, I need to get the geometry sorted out but engine and grip (in the dry at least) is very good.

I've had some moments in it and the dealer warned me about driving in wet conditions, but the only time it's bitten is when the rear tyres needed changing and I had a tank slapper coming out of a deserted roundabout... I caught it ok. On good tyres you can push the car to some extent (you can feel the car understeer as you push into a corner and begin to transition into a more tail lead stance) but until I've had the geo done, 8/10ths is about enough really.

Fantastic car!

Chris Type R

8,063 posts

250 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Gorbyrev said:
Didn't Vicky BH run one of these?
I think she had a new one every 6 months, so double digit ownership. Only seen her in a yellow one though (she lives a few miles away).

FlavaDave

213 posts

160 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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havoc said:
IMHO the ideal roadster would be a hybrid MX-5 and S2000 - the aggression and powertrain of the S2000 with the poise, feedback and 'entry-level rwd' handling of the Mk1/2 MX-5.
Dear car people. That, please ^

Bye.

Lewtyper

211 posts

179 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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The only one i've driven didn't feel as fast as my DC2. Possibly just a smoother transition to the second cam. Also the steering felt pretty numb.

That said if I ever sell the teg, an S2k is next on the list

trossr32

10 posts

195 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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I bought one a couple of months ago. 99 V-reg, 37000 miles from new, garaged all it's life, full service history and loads of receipts, £5400. Took it to RAF Marham on a track day in August and it was great fun!




CatScan

208 posts

150 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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mikey k said:
I'm a shade over 6' and was fine in mine I did lower the drivers seat on the last one which helps
At a shade under 6'6'' my first check in any car is the lanky bd test :P

mig25_foxbat2003

5,426 posts

212 months

Saturday 15th September 2012
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Lewtyper said:
The only one i've driven didn't feel as fast as my DC2. Possibly just a smoother transition to the second cam. Also the steering felt pretty numb.

That said if I ever sell the teg, an S2k is next on the list
I stepped out of my DC2 and into my mate's one yesterday and, while it doesn't *feel* quicker than the Teg, I think it's a perception thing rather than reality. It accumulated speed with a lot less anger than the DC2 does, but a glance down at the speedo showed we were going rather more quickly than I'd thought. Also, there is very little which is geared as low as a DC2, S2K included, so the former feels more sprightly off the line.

Steering-wise, I don't get the comments - I thought there was plenty of feel, although I didn't push it at all.

mikey k

13,012 posts

217 months

Saturday 15th September 2012
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Hellbound said:
Having read the entire thread I actually feel put off by it now.

Being a gentleman I'd probably pay more for a torquier 3.0 Z4 or even a perfectly balanced Boxster S. None of this never ending modifying shinanigans for me. I find modded S2000's bring down the image somewhat. A discrete exhaust and air filter are about as far as I'd go with any car really. Maybe a remap too.
If you like torque forget the S
An 06-08 VSA would be fine otherwise wink

mikey k

13,012 posts

217 months

Saturday 15th September 2012
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Prof Prolapse said:
What is this based on?

What do you mean by "blow"?

Cheers,
PP
International experience on S2ki
Bottom end usually goes
The F20C is a pretty exotic engine and difficult to rebuild

Lloydie33

60 posts

162 months

Saturday 15th September 2012
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Well, drove my mates one (05) and was impressed with the drive & it's a great looking, well engineered car... But so little torque was frustrating, basically you have to be in the mood to give it stick to get a move on whereas an Evo is always dying to be let loose and you have to choose to rein it in! Why oh why can't my Evo have the lovely S2000 gearbox.

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

204 months

Saturday 15th September 2012
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A stupid article on 2 points

1) They are only twitchy if you are a ste driver and blame the fact you hit the curb and hedge on the car. If you have anything about you this won't happen.

2) This IMO is the best time to buy, some of the best days we have in this country are those bright clear crisp days in the winter when you put the heater on full blast, put your scarf on and spend a day going for it.

PS don't forget the CAI kit, it really is one of the best automotive noises ever.

I genuinely would not rule my 3rd S2000 out of the equation, no way!

smile

TameRacingDriver

18,117 posts

273 months

Saturday 15th September 2012
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This was one of the contenders for me recently, I didn't drive it but I expect that the engine will be somewhat similar to the engine in my old DC2. And I would have expected it to handle a bit like a larger, stiffer, heavier, and more edgy feeling MX5? Are these assumptions fairly accurate? If so, that is why I went for the 350Z instead, although thirstier, they are cheaper to insure, and its a daily driver so the noise even at low revs is better and it has a lot more torque, although the Honda is probably a sharper tool, I have to say I love the engine, noise, torque and luxuries of the Z and it still is a brilliant hooning machine IMO.

I do REALLY like the look of the S2000 though. It looks very purposeful.

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

204 months

Saturday 15th September 2012
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TameRacingDriver said:
This was one of the contenders for me recently, I didn't drive it but I expect that the engine will be somewhat similar to the engine in my old DC2. And I would have expected it to handle a bit like a larger, stiffer, heavier, and more edgy feeling MX5? Are these assumptions fairly accurate? If so, that is why I went for the 350Z instead, although thirstier, they are cheaper to insure, and its a daily driver so the noise even at low revs is better and it has a lot more torque, although the Honda is probably a sharper tool, I have to say I love the engine, noise, torque and luxuries of the Z and it still is a brilliant hooning machine IMO.

I do REALLY like the look of the S2000 though. It looks very purposeful.
350Z and the S2000 are very different cars IMO, the 350Z is much more of a GT car where the S2000 is a sports car.

In my experience the S2000 doesn't feel any heavier than an MX5, it's certainly edgier but FFS it's a sports car.

smile

TameRacingDriver

18,117 posts

273 months

Saturday 15th September 2012
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Oh I agree, the Z is a GT car first and foremost. I must admit to being surprised how well it handles considering how fat it is!

S2000 still sounds a hoot when you're in the mood mind.

Both I'm sure are a very nice upgrade over an MX5.

TameRacingDriver

18,117 posts

273 months

Saturday 15th September 2012
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ETA cars like this are the reason I wouldn't pay £25K+ for a GT86 at this time...