RE: McLaren P1 revealed

RE: McLaren P1 revealed

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HighwayStar

4,257 posts

144 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Streetrod said:
At the moment I can only see one flaw in the design and that is also one of my favourite parts of the car.

The small aero treatment behind the front wheel that forms part of the door. If you look from the rear forward you can see a large amount of the tyre, therefore when driving in wet and dirty conditions it looks like the tyres are going to make an absolute mess of the side of the car, I wonder how that will be resolved on the production cars?
They'll clean it or have it cleaned like any other car!!! Trust me, that's part of the aero and will still be there on production cars. It's not all about being pretty and practicle. I hope I do see one on the road as the rain lashes down but owners will have others cars for those days.

Gridl0k

1,058 posts

183 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Busy week in Woking!

Wonder if Carlos Slim gets a freebie

wtdoom

3,742 posts

208 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Carfolio said:
Child-bearing hips. I suspect this won't be the final design.
Final design has a couple of vents and possibly different brakes . Outline and main shape to be unchanged

HighwayStar

4,257 posts

144 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Gridl0k said:
Busy week in Woking!

Wonder if Carlos Slim gets a freebie
Spot on. Rather timely as well, Telemex cash may finance those customer engines Mclaren are going to need unless they pull a big rabbit out the hat.

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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HighwayStar said:
They'll clean it or have it cleaned like any other car!!! Trust me, that's part of the aero and will still be there on production cars. It's not all about being pretty and practicle. I hope I do see one on the road as the rain lashes down but owners will have others cars for those days.
Imagine what the spray off the road would look like coming through that diffuser biggrin

CraigyMc

16,403 posts

236 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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HighwayStar said:
Gridl0k said:
Busy week in Woking!

Wonder if Carlos Slim gets a freebie
Spot on. Rather timely as well, Telemex cash may finance those customer engines Mclaren are going to need unless they pull a big rabbit out the hat.
A bit offtopic, but I've been wondering how Telmex and Vodafone would cope with being on the same car...

C

HighwayStar

4,257 posts

144 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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CraigyMc said:
HighwayStar said:
Gridl0k said:
Busy week in Woking!

Wonder if Carlos Slim gets a freebie
Spot on. Rather timely as well, Telemex cash may finance those customer engines Mclaren are going to need unless they pull a big rabbit out the hat.
A bit offtopic, but I've been wondering how Telmex and Vodafone would cope with being on the same car...

C
Good spot, never crossed my mind and I work for the opposition... Mclaren's Vodaphone deal expires soon and it's not certain they will re-sign.

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

214 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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CraigyMc said:
Something else just occurred to me, and I'm not sure why.

When you have a flappy-paddle shift setup like precog, you render yourself impervious to people who want to change gear with either their right or left hand depending on whether they are in a LHD or RHD market, respectively.

Consequently, it's not as big a deal in one way.
However - one has to add that it is supposed to be the ultimate car around a track, most circuits are clockwise and with a single occupant the laws of physics confer a small advantage to the RHD car. It is still only a small fraction of a second even on a circuit as long as LeMans, but it was enough for Porsche to make the 956/962 and RS Spyder RHD as well as the BMW LMR, Ferrari 312, Peugeot 905 and a host of other manufacturers who are normally predisposed to build LHD (exemplified in their road car derived racing products)...

I think that we can safely call out Ron Dennis on attention to detail over this one and tell him that he is pandering to marketing thumbup

[Note: if the utterly implausible chance of my winning tonights Euro lottery were to pass, I'd be asking how big the fee was for an RHD one just after I asked them if they were aware of whether any of their F1 owners were of a mind to sell]

DonkeyApple

55,251 posts

169 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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HighwayStar said:
Good spot, never crossed my mind and I work for the opposition... Mclaren's Vodaphone deal expires soon and it's not certain they will re-sign.
Isn't that the reason for chosing Whatshisname over Kobiashi?

Kobi is from a country which is broke, has little appetite among local multinationals to throw money at F1 and also has the slight problem that a hugely important customer base for Macca cars (China and the FE) still remembers what the Japanese did to them. On the other hand, the Mexican is from a country that is full of ambitous and outward looking multinationals and most importantly, isn't Whatshisname tied to their big mobile company? As such, it puts pressure on VOD to resign etc.

Gridl0k

1,058 posts

183 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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Vodafone (with an F), like most multi-national Telcos, partners with people like TelMex all the time. It's a good way to enter a developing market, seeing how much experience Voda can bring to a deal. So I doubt there's issues there.

Kamui isn't as fast as Sergio, objectively. In fact his seat is rumoured to be open to offers for next year.

CraigyMc

16,403 posts

236 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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Gridl0k said:
...In fact his seat is rumoured to be open to offers for next year....
Fnarr...