RE: Revealed: Jaguar F-Type
Discussion
I'd be interested to know the age of those posting on this thread. It seems to me like perhaps those saying they prefer the XKR/E-Type are indeed current or past owners...i.e. 40+. This is absolutely fine, but ultimately, 40+ is not a profitable market anymore for sports cars. I suspect the whole point of the F-Type is to appeal to a younger generation....and let's be honest, wings, vents and angular lines are what appeals to the current flock of 30 somethings.
Ford proved without doubt that making Jags look like a pastiche of how the Americans viewed 1950s England simply doesn't work. Kind of like Starbucks making all the UK branches resemble a 1950s Tea Room from Mary Poppins serving cream tea's, the rest of the world is far too cynical to react postively.
Anyway...rather than judging the car from one image, how about we wait for the first drives later in the year.
Ford proved without doubt that making Jags look like a pastiche of how the Americans viewed 1950s England simply doesn't work. Kind of like Starbucks making all the UK branches resemble a 1950s Tea Room from Mary Poppins serving cream tea's, the rest of the world is far too cynical to react postively.
Anyway...rather than judging the car from one image, how about we wait for the first drives later in the year.
Edited by RacerMike on Sunday 23 September 14:28
RacerMike said:
I'd be interested to know the age of those posting on this thread. It seems to me like perhaps those saying they prefer the XKR/E-Type are indeed current or past owners...i.e. 40+. This is absolutely fine, but ultimately, 40+ is not a profitable market anymore for sports cars. I suspect the whole point of the F-Type is to appeal to a younger generation....and let's be honest, wings, vents and angular lines are what appeals to the current flock of 30 somethings.
Ford proved without doubt that making Jags look like a pastiche of how the Americans viewed 1950s England simply doesn't work. Kind of like Starbucks making all the UK branches resemble a 1950s Tea Room from Mary Poppins serving cream tea's, the rest of the world is far too cynical to react postively.
Anyway...rather than judging the car from one image, how about we wait for the first drives later in the year.
Exactly... Nail on head, especially the perception of the view of tradition Britain and therefore what a Jag should be. Tradition is all very good while the rest if the world buy German. The Queen drives a Ranger Rover not a MK10 Jag.Ford proved without doubt that making Jags look like a pastiche of how the Americans viewed 1950s England simply doesn't work. Kind of like Starbucks making all the UK branches resemble a 1950s Tea Room from Mary Poppins serving cream tea's, the rest of the world is far too cynical to react postively.
Anyway...rather than judging the car from one image, how about we wait for the first drives later in the year.
Edited by RacerMike on Sunday 23 September 14:28
RacerMike said:
I'd be interested to know the age of those posting on this thread. It seems to me like perhaps those saying they prefer the XKR/E-Type are indeed current or past owners...i.e. 40+. This is absolutely fine, but ultimately, 40+ is not a profitable market anymore for sports cars. I suspect the whole point of the F-Type is to appeal to a younger generation....and let's be honest, wings, vents and angular lines are what appeals to the current flock of 30 somethings.
Ford proved without doubt that making Jags look like a pastiche of how the Americans viewed 1950s England simply doesn't work. Kind of like Starbucks making all the UK branches resemble a 1950s Tea Room from Mary Poppins serving cream tea's, the rest of the world is far too cynical to react postively.
Anyway...rather than judging the car from one image, how about we wait for the first drives later in the year.
Great post.Ford proved without doubt that making Jags look like a pastiche of how the Americans viewed 1950s England simply doesn't work. Kind of like Starbucks making all the UK branches resemble a 1950s Tea Room from Mary Poppins serving cream tea's, the rest of the world is far too cynical to react postively.
Anyway...rather than judging the car from one image, how about we wait for the first drives later in the year.
Edited by RacerMike on Sunday 23 September 14:28
Myself at 21, after following the f-type development, and before that rumours and concepts for many years. I feel it's a car to aspire to, i certainly wouldn't want something as large as a XK.
RodMod said:
I like the way they are going away from golf clubs and pringle but why could we have not done this , its had to go India (Tata) to do all the stuff we should have but always played it safe.
Rod.
Money! They (Jaguar) couldn't afford not to "play it safe"! The (most recent) XK, the XF, the XJ and this were/are, comparatively, a huge gamble. Rod.
FWIW, I want an F-Type so bad it hurts.
RodMod said:
I like the way they are going away from golf clubs and pringle but why could we have not done this , its had to go India (Tata) to do all the stuff we should have but always played it safe.
Rod.
How do you mean? The F Type is designed developed* and manufactured in the UK by a mainly British team. Rod.
- by this I mean the development teams. Most development work in the car industry is done in Spain, the States as the rest of Europe.
RacerMike said:
RodMod said:
I like the way they are going away from golf clubs and pringle but why could we have not done this , its had to go India (Tata) to do all the stuff we should have but always played it safe.
Rod.
How do you mean? The F Type is designed developed* and manufactured in the UK by a mainly British team. Rod.
- by this I mean the development teams. Most development work in the car industry is done in Spain, the States as the rest of Europe.
Under Tata (Indian)ownership JLR management have been encourage and supported in bringing great products to the market and expand the range.
People bring it up constantly in these threads but exactly how is Indian financial ownership worse than overbearing, completely controlling American ownership?
When Ford owned JLR, the management chain very clearly became Ford at a certain level and the company was constantly stopped from making things that could encroach on other parts of the empire, no such problem exists anymore. It's a British company that sends its very generous Indian uncle a Christmas card with some money in it.
When Ford owned JLR, the management chain very clearly became Ford at a certain level and the company was constantly stopped from making things that could encroach on other parts of the empire, no such problem exists anymore. It's a British company that sends its very generous Indian uncle a Christmas card with some money in it.
MSTRBKR said:
VladD said:
I was thinking exactly the same. I think I'll need to see one in the flesh before I make my mind up. The front end is a bit fussy isn't it.
He said it was dull, you agree but say its fussy? Classic pistonheads. Make your mind up indeed!Growing on me. I think they are very brave calling it an "F-type" with all the baggage that will drag with it.
Personally I would have liked to see more curves, I am getting bored with angular cars with huge air intakes, but hey, as an earlier poster says, its not aimed at my demographic.
I wish them the best of luck with it and for the sake of the British Car Industry, I hope it sells by the ship load. Looking forward to seeing the first one out and about.
Personally I would have liked to see more curves, I am getting bored with angular cars with huge air intakes, but hey, as an earlier poster says, its not aimed at my demographic.
I wish them the best of luck with it and for the sake of the British Car Industry, I hope it sells by the ship load. Looking forward to seeing the first one out and about.
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It has a very S2000 bonnet line. Lovely.
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