RE: Audi unveils its new S3

RE: Audi unveils its new S3

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TerryCTR

46 posts

146 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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va1o said:
Comments on price are silly

A few points,

- it won't list for more than it does in Germany (so expect £31k)
- it will have nav, leather and xenons standard
- the majority will be sold on PCP/CH where the monthly prices are low due to the strong residuals

So to the muppets insisting you need to spend £10k on options and then £40k cash on the car, STFU.
Nav as standard, is that confirmed? If so good stuff as I don't need many more extras bar say comfort pack and perhaps the led front lights just for the sake of it

HighwayStar

4,287 posts

145 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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TerryCTR said:
Nav as standard, is that confirmed? If so good stuff as I don't need many more extras bar say comfort pack and perhaps the led front lights just for the sake of it
I doubt Nav will be standard... Audi are worse than BMW these days for being stingy with standard equipment. For what you say you want you won't be too far over base come deal time.
Alternatively you could do what I did... My TTS was pre-reg with 35 miles on the clock. Loaded with, Nav, Bose, auto dimming mirrors, high beam assist, electric seats etc.. For what I paid I got 6k worth of options thrown in.

va1o

16,032 posts

208 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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TerryCTR said:
Nav as standard, is that confirmed? If so good stuff as I don't need many more extras bar say comfort pack and perhaps the led front lights just for the sake of it
All UK model A3s include nav prep as part of the standard connectivity pack, so you already have the MMI display, GPS reciever and 2nd SD reader standard fit with the vehicle. All that's required to fully enable is the SD card containing the maps, it's likely that will be included in the new S3 spec given the current S3 includes the DVD based nav standard.

TerryCTR

46 posts

146 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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^^ that was only on the last of the S3s though mate to try and shift them before the new one, originally the black edition didn't have the nav for free it only became free when they added tech pack

TerryCTR

46 posts

146 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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HighwayStar said:
I doubt Nav will be standard... Audi are worse than BMW these days for being stingy with standard equipment. For what you say you want you won't be too far over base come deal time.
Alternatively you could do what I did... My TTS was pre-reg with 35 miles on the clock. Loaded with, Nav, Bose, auto dimming mirrors, high beam assist, electric seats etc.. For what I paid I got 6k worth of options thrown in.
I had a TT S line LE before, I should have went for the TTS instead as it was just so boring down a B road. That would mean a bit of a wait to get a pre reg no doubt which could be an option as I'm considering a Mk1 TT QS just now and it's only on 45k miles so I may end up keeping longer than I initially planned

the-photographer

3,486 posts

177 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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  • All new A3's get a colour/color 5.8" screen, you can add Nav (with a little SD card) for £495
The OLD S3 had the following as STANDARD;

  • Xenon lights
  • Nav DVD version (for 2011/2012 cars only)
  • Nappa leather
  • Heated seats
  • Bluetooth
What you won't get is the 7" screen with the tech package, that's £1,495



Edited by the-photographer on Thursday 27th September 08:55

TerryCTR

46 posts

146 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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the-photographer said:
* All new A3's get a colour/color 5.8" screen, you can add Nav (with a little SD card) for £495

The OLD S3 had the following as STANDARD;

  • Xenon lights
  • Nav (DVD version)
  • Nappa leather
  • Heated seats
  • Bluetooth
What you won't get is the 7" screen with the tech package, that's £1,495

Edited by the-photographer on Wednesday 26th September 19:36
Eventually as standard it wasn't always

the-photographer

3,486 posts

177 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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TerryCTR said:
Eventually as standard it wasn't always
OK, I edited my post.

TerryCTR

46 posts

146 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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Later probably doesn't even cover it mate, I watched them for sometime with the intent of buying one if I ever managed to sell my bloody import. Even up until April I'm sure it was you had to pay for nav then they came out with one last push and each car was the black edition tech pack in sport back only.

HighwayStar

4,287 posts

145 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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TerryCTR said:
Later probably doesn't even cover it mate, I watched them for sometime with the intent of buying one if I ever managed to sell my bloody import. Even up until April I'm sure it was you had to pay for nav then they came out with one last push and each car was the black edition tech pack in sport back only.
The TTS Black Edition doesn't even now come with Nav as standard. And you you, the charge a princely sum for it, £1600... It does a lot, Nav, radio, CD, iPhone/iPod interface & 2x 32GB SD cards. I'm fine with it but it has to be said it's well behind the best stuff that's out there now and in other Audi's. Some opt for the standard symphony system with Bose and go for a kenwood or pioneer system... All said features plus streaming, touch scream etc for less, the drop straight in and look OEM. Food for thought
Apologies off topic I know.

TerryCTR

46 posts

146 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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Yes I've seen this on the TT forum mate. That was one reason I thought it would be worth waiting for the new S3.

I'm just hoping its gets a semi decent review when it's actually driven and it will do me I reckon

HighwayStar

4,287 posts

145 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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TerryCTR said:
Yes I've seen this on the TT forum mate. That was one reason I thought it would be worth waiting for the new S3.

I'm just hoping its gets a semi decent review when it's actually driven and it will do me I reckon
Autocar reviewed the 2.0 TDi, today... 4 stars for outclassing all current premium hatches except for driving. The S3 will at least be the same... Depending what you want from driving a car it'll be for you or not. Maybe the Golf if you want a bit more driver appeal.

TerryCTR

46 posts

146 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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I'd like to think I still want a car that can offer some fun at times but all I seem to do is cruise about up and down the motorway of late. Maybe it's just because I'm trying to sell the car that I'm not wanting to increase tyre wear etc but right now the S3 suits and Quattro for me living in Glasgow with all this poor weather is ideal.

I would like a golf r but I do feel they are overpriced and don't hold their value anywhere near as good as the S3 on a pcp term which means monster payments at a level where I could choose a Porsche instead for example

cerb4.5lee

30,736 posts

181 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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HighwayStar said:
The TTS Black Edition doesn't even now come with Nav as standard. And you you, the charge a princely sum for it, £1600... It does a lot, Nav, radio, CD, iPhone/iPod interface & 2x 32GB SD cards. I'm fine with it but it has to be said it's well behind the best stuff that's out there now and in other Audi's. Some opt for the standard symphony system with Bose and go for a kenwood or pioneer system... All said features plus streaming, touch scream etc for less, the drop straight in and look OEM. Food for thought
Apologies off topic I know.
Our Black edition has nav but it was extra as you say, but it isnt worth it, its just not very good & its even DVD based! & as for the Bose stereo i was expecting good things but that sounds ordinary too & it sounds poor in comparision to the DSP upgraded stereo in my Z4M, Audis could be so great but its all the little things that let them down, its a big shame because most are great to look at, just dont drive anywhere in them & you will stay happy! wink

the-photographer

3,486 posts

177 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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HighwayStar said:
TerryCTR said:
Yes I've seen this on the TT forum mate. That was one reason I thought it would be worth waiting for the new S3.

I'm just hoping its gets a semi decent review when it's actually driven and it will do me I reckon
Autocar reviewed the 2.0 TDi, today... 4 stars for outclassing all current premium hatches except for driving. The S3 will at least be the same... Depending what you want from driving a car it'll be for you or not. Maybe the Golf if you want a bit more driver appeal.
Its worse than that, the months What Car tests the Giuliette, A3, 1-series and V40 (all diesel).

The Audi comes top in ride and handling (with non-sport suspension), they claim sharp agile handling with controlled ride.

the-photographer

3,486 posts

177 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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TerryCTR said:
Later probably doesn't even cover it mate, I watched them for sometime with the intent of buying one if I ever managed to sell my bloody import. Even up until April I'm sure it was you had to pay for nav then they came out with one last push and each car was the black edition tech pack in sport back only.
OK, I edited my post again, I just reading the brochure.

HighwayStar

4,287 posts

145 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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cerb4.5lee said:
HighwayStar said:
The TTS Black Edition doesn't even now come with Nav as standard. And you you, the charge a princely sum for it, £1600... It does a lot, Nav, radio, CD, iPhone/iPod interface & 2x 32GB SD cards. I'm fine with it but it has to be said it's well behind the best stuff that's out there now and in other Audi's. Some opt for the standard symphony system with Bose and go for a kenwood or pioneer system... All said features plus streaming, touch scream etc for less, the drop straight in and look OEM. Food for thought
Apologies off topic I know.
Our Black edition has nav but it was extra as you say, but it isnt worth it, its just not very good & its even DVD based! & as for the Bose stereo i was expecting good things but that sounds ordinary too & it sounds poor in comparision to the DSP upgraded stereo in my Z4M, Audis could be so great but its all the little things that let them down, its a big shame because most are great to look at, just dont drive anywhere in them & you will stay happy! wink
It's strange how Audi has a, never really got the best out of the system and b, not upgraded the SatNav plus/replaced it with the latest tech. Re the Bose, others have swapped out the head unit and the Bose has come alive. If find sound varies from genre to genre rather then it generally sounds bad. The Nav doesn't do full post codes which many b!tch about. Not good if your destination is out in the sticks but overall the system is good enough for me... I don't live far from work so the majority of driving is casual, visiting friends etc... The MK3 will, no doubt, be properly teched up. If they give it some soul, I'll be there for the facelift model.

va1o

16,032 posts

208 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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TerryCTR said:
^^ that was only on the last of the S3s though mate to try and shift them before the new one, originally the black edition didn't have the nav for free it only became free when they added tech pack
Yeah but either way all new models A3s have nav prep (MMI, Colour Screen and 2nd SD reader) so the new S3 will have that as a bare minimum

The SD card containing the maps is about £495 and can either be specified at the factory or activated anytime after by a dealer. Some people on the A1 forum have bought the cards of eBay for less.

ge0rge

3,053 posts

206 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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rudecherub said:
What would interest me is longitudinal 5 cylinder engine with genuine 40/60 Quattro drive train.
This is exactly what i thought, haldex is great for traction, but for sporting dynamics - no. The 5 cyl throng is a thing of beauty and of proper sporting quattro's historically so why not bring it back smile.

Dont think it'll ever achieve the 40.9 mpg, even downhill with a tailwind and in neutral ..