RE: PH Fleet: Ferrari 599

RE: PH Fleet: Ferrari 599

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pb63

238 posts

162 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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BaronVonVaderham said:
So, the question is: which italian supercars are actually made properly?
Zonda. That's it...and that's half german as well.

ES335

154 posts

165 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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Ferrari should just licence the Mercedes W124 era wiper design and hide the mechanism needed to house the eccentric under the bonnet. Best wiper design ever.

I know there's a romance attached to Ferraris but that level of build quality in a car of that price is really inexcusable. Mind you, it probably explains why Paganis cost what they do.

billzeebub

3,862 posts

198 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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I love the Ferrari quirks. My next purchase will realistically be a Porker 993, which is an exceptional but idiosyncratic car. I love the fact the stereo is down by the passengers knees, and the dials are largely obscured by the steering wheel!.. A superbly engineered car with intrinsic packaging issues. I would rather a car company spends the cash on the chassis/ engine, as opposed to making it an ergonomic tour de force. But then I do have a fairly perverse attitude towards my cars!..

..my Corrado VR6 has notoriously candle-like headlights and windscreen wipers that lift off the screen at motorway speeds. I have replaced the wiring loom which I am very happy with as I can now actually see where I am going in the dark. The standard wipers have also been replaced with the Audi TT Aero set-up. Again they now actually wipe the screen at speed, but I kind of miss the original items, even though they may well have killed me one wet evening.

The wing mirrors on the Fezza are a work of art, almost worth the admission price alone! The mirrors on my Corrado are a common part with several TVRs, and I like them muchly. The factthey are bolted to the door and do not protrude much further than the car footprint is a design plus. However when I looked at replacing the standard flat glass with Convex blue-tint items I was astounded at the cost. €120+!! ..TVR prices!..that effect can wait!..

Edited by billzeebub on Wednesday 26th September 18:37

AndrewD

7,527 posts

283 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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Porkie said:
AndrewD said:
Porkie said:
Ugly... but least that looks like it pops the boot.

It drives me nuts that my F430 key doesnt have a boot release button on key.... have to go back into car. put key in ignition, flick boot release... PITA!
On my 16M there is a little loop of cable under the dash you can pull instead of turning on the electrics and pressing the boot release button - still means you have to open the car door of course - doesn't your F430 have something like this?
is it a red loop of string? I've always wondered what that does but didnt wanna pull it!

THANKS! smile
My pleasure (all usual caveats apply if you pull half your wiring loom out though smile )

Reminds me of TVR days when you had to turn the ignition on to pop the boot too!

AndrewD

7,527 posts

283 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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BaronVonVaderham said:
Very interesting how faults become 'quirks' on desireable exotica.

It saddens me somewhat though, I aspire to own/drive something Italian and ridiculous (either from Enzo's shed or that tractor manufacturer) before I shuffle off my mortal coil and having built up these iconic cars and brands to embody automotive perfection, is this what i've got to look forward to?

Bad design I can forgive and even find amusing, but poor build quality on something so expensive is unacceptable.

So, the question is: which italian supercars are actually made properly?
Really don't worry about it. I've had 8 Lambos and Ferraris in the last 4 or 5 years, no particular build quality issues to speak of. Be mechanically savvy and look after them, and don't buy a lemon of course

Gridl0k

1,058 posts

182 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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GordonF430 said:
The key looks like my F430 one, which my mate took great excitement in pointing out was the same as his Fiat Punto key.......


Ferrari's Favourite Journalist EVAH said:
I don’t want the car to be any louder, I’d just like some more of its existing music filtered into the cockpit.
I'm with you on this, I feel like tearing out sound proofing in my V8 sometimes. Or maybe asking passersby for a donation, as I'm paying the music bill.

Edited by Gridl0k on Thursday 27th September 11:46


Edited by Gridl0k on Thursday 27th September 11:47