RE: You Know You Want To: MG SV
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Justayellowbadge said:
Article doesn't mention one of the selling points when new - the body is all carbon.
All carbon - like charcoal or diamonds ? Or do we mean carbon fibre reinforced polymer ? Edited by Justayellowbadge on Wednesday 26th September 12:00
For me the SV's high point was when JC got a Glasgow Kiss from the cant rail when the car snapped back into line during some hooning around the TG test track ...
Edited by GranCab on Wednesday 26th September 13:59
Edited by GranCab on Wednesday 26th September 14:00
kambites said:
CraigyMc said:
the value of the thing is going to plummet.
That hasn't happened so far. They seem to have held their value better than, say, a 911 of the same age. This one is up for sale for 40k, and has no miles on it. If it sells for £40K they'll be doing well. Even if it did, that's £25K lost before it's turned a wheel.
Can you find any 911s of similar vintage with no miles on then?
C
300bhp/ton said:
Not sure I'd spend £40k on one (although what can you buy for that today that's as exclusive?) and I'm surprised used prices haven't slipped more. But I personally quite like the bonkers styling and the engine has plenty of potential for some proper horse power too.
I've only ever seen one of these on the road and it was in this orange. I'm completely indifferent. However, I do appreciate its rarity...CraigyMc said:
They made 82 of them, for between 65K and 83K original list.
<snip> If it sells for £40K they'll be doing well. Even if it did, that's £25K lost before it's turned a wheel.
This goes to show the mentality of some people. The 'list' price of any car is an arbitrary amount set by committees of people who have estimated the value of something they want to sell. It not set in stone, legally binding or does it have any bearing whatsoever on what the item is actually worth (which is in reality what people are willing to pay for it).<snip> If it sells for £40K they'll be doing well. Even if it did, that's £25K lost before it's turned a wheel.
At 40k this will probably be turning a fair profit for the people who bought the bits at auction and assembled them. Your £25k loss figure is meaningless.
If you want to measure the true 'loss' then try estimating what percentage of the written off government bailouts of Rover this one car was responsible for....
IMO this will be an appreciating museum piece, if only for what it represented.
JapFreak786 said:
I was at the auction that was held in the old Xpower building in Longbridge. There were a few built and unsold MG SV's there under auction, and quite a number of MG SV's in various stages of build, 20% complete, 70% complete etc with the price reflecting their stage of build. Memory says there was a black one there which was for sale, maybe this is that car?
Ian Donaldson of Oakfields bought them, along with a variety of development and race cars, including an MGF with a breathed on cossie RS500 lump and 7 speed sequential box, the land speed record holder MG ZT estate.r11co said:
CraigyMc said:
They made 82 of them, for between 65K and 83K original list.
<snip> If it sells for £40K they'll be doing well. Even if it did, that's £25K lost before it's turned a wheel.
This goes to show the mentality of some people. The 'list' price of any car is an arbitrary amount set by committees of people who have estimated the value of something they want to sell. It not set in stone, legally binding or does it have any bearing whatsoever on what the item is actually worth (which is in reality what people are willing to pay for it).<snip> If it sells for £40K they'll be doing well. Even if it did, that's £25K lost before it's turned a wheel.
At 40k this will probably be turning a fair profit for the people who bought the bits at auction and assembled them. Your £25k loss figure is meaningless.
If you want to measure the true 'loss' then try estimating what percentage of the written off government bailouts of Rover this one car was responsible for....
IMO this will be an appreciating museum piece, if only for what it represented.
At the moment, the number is simply what someone's asking for it.
I have a bottle of water on my desk which I won't sell for anything under £100K. Is it worth £100K?
Also - the porsche comparison is meaningless unless there's a 911 out there with 5 miles on it.
C
300bhp/ton said:
Hardly unproven 
try reading up on the SV's history and the car and engine that underpin it.
It was put together by Rover, I need not go much further but in your case and your blinkered attitude to anyone that dares to question your favourite little brand it needs pointing out that they didn't make a spectacular job of their 'supercar' which is why they're being sold in bits or as complete cars needing work these days. I can imagine you in 2005 waxing about how much better the SV was than all it's peers...... Oh and take a little read of the Rowan Atkinson evo car, that should tell you something about a car you think you know lots about. try reading up on the SV's history and the car and engine that underpin it.Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 26th September 15:10
yonex said:
It was put together by Rover, I needed go much further but in your case and your blinkered attitude to anyone that dares to question your favourite little brand it needs pointing out that they didn't make a spectacular job of their 'supercar' which is why they're being sold in bits or as complete cars needing work these days. I can imagine you in 2005 waxing about how much better the SV was than all it's peers...... Oh and take a little read of the Rowan Atkinson evo car, that should tell you something about a car you think you know lots about.
It wasn't built by Rover!The SV actually started out as a DeTomaso Bigua concept in 1996. With the aid of Qvale (the man behind the Jensen-Healey and the Subaru franchises) the car entered production being built in Modena. It was also fully USA Type Approved, so evidently a degree of engineering and development effort had gone into it. It was also sold with either a BMW or a Ford V8 engine depending on market.
This is the first Peter Stevens restyle effort (X80), while having to retain the scuttle height, width and crash structures of the Mangusta.
From Autocar:
Autocar said:
Autocar magazine loved the car – but not without reservations. Richard Bremner praised the chassis: “No question – MG Rover’s Sport and racing division has done its work on the SV’s chassis. Around Brands Hatch it’s grippy, steers with precision and it’s damping not only controls the body with the vigour of an over-zealous traffic cop, but allows the springs to mop up bumps too. So a chassis that has been optimised towards road use proves more than man enough for a work-out on the track
The XPower SV was also built in the same Modena factory in Italy as was the Mangusta before it. The workers "were from Italian chassis builders Vaccari & Bosi". The carbon fibre bodies were made by OPAC in Turin, the chassis originated from another of Vaccari & Bosi’s factories South of Modena, and the engines were supplied by Ford in North America. The finished cars were then shipped back to England for final painting and fettling.
I used to run the MG Rover dealer on Park Lane and we had the franchise to sell these as well, my background was from Jaguar and Aston Martin and in fairness they weren't a patch on those but it wasn't in that marketplace (more TVR)....we all had the opportunity to drive them frequently and they did have a kind of left field appeal even though the race harness buggered up any suit you were wearing. It was that intriguing a car with its carbon fibre body and mustang V8 that it attracted a long and detailed conversation and further conversations from a young russian......who incidentally had just bought TVR. Would I have one?, yes in a heartbeat, a limited build car with such low mileage and proven mechanicals would make an interesting choice, away from the yawn usual suspects, tbh you would buy the car to drive and enjoy not worry about necessarily losing a few quid!
This looks good to me. Pretty sure it's a modded SV-R, not an SV-RS as stated, but still pleasant.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4262607.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4262607.htm
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