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alexpa

546 posts

58 months

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thinfourth2 said:
alexpa said:
who cares about the Panda 4x4?

where are your pics of the F70 Tub, Mclaren P1 etc...

for those that are interested:
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/09/26/mclaren-p1-supe...

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=...
It must be awesome to be you
ok, silly post, but hey...

DeltaEvo2

500 posts

78 months

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Pandaaaaa! smile

Cracking little car.

MoelyCrio

1,997 posts

68 months

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Thursday 27th September 2012 quote quote all
Is the Suzuki SX4 not 'A' segment then?

They seem to pick up all the "need a small 4x4" sales round here.

Twincam16

27,646 posts

144 months

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WMP said:
Twincam16 said:
I like the Panda 4x4. I often wonder whether Fiat could get away with lowering and stiffening the suspension, fitting a more powerful engine and making it a kind of latter-day mini-Integrale.

Come to think of it, isn't there a Lancia based on the Panda floorplan? They could do it with that and even call it an Integrale. Then enter it in the IRC.
That sounds like a plan! If Fiat made this car as the next 100 hp it would be awesome. Is it too small to comply with the WRC regs though?
That's why I suggested IRC. There are interesting regulation changes coming for IRC next year that'll effectively be the same as the old Group A regulations, requiring a homologation run of 3500, the idea being to use more production cars and keep costs down. I love the idea of a kind of scaled-down modern Integrale. This with the 100HP engine, only tuned to put out much more.

LuS1fer

31,766 posts

131 months

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MoelyCrio said:
Is the Suzuki SX4 not 'A' segment then?

They seem to pick up all the "need a small 4x4" sales round here.
The SZ3 and SZ4 are 2WD and seem to represent the bulk of SX4s round here, including my in-laws.
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CDP

5,048 posts

140 months

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BeirutTaxi said:
The old Panda 4x4 is loveable in many ways.. So dirt cheap and simple!

As an interesting fact of the day.. I think alongside the Defender the really old Panda's are the only production car in the world to have a totally flat windscreen smile
The Lotus Esprit S1/S2/S3 only had flat glass and looked a treat.


Fiat ought to do a variant without the front diff and half shafts as an "up yours" to BMW.




Luke.

6,574 posts

136 months

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Thursday 27th September 2012 quote quote all
CDP said:
BeirutTaxi said:
The old Panda 4x4 is loveable in many ways.. So dirt cheap and simple!

As an interesting fact of the day.. I think alongside the Defender the really old Panda's are the only production car in the world to have a totally flat windscreen smile
The Lotus Esprit S1/S2/S3 only had flat glass and looked a treat.


Fiat ought to do a variant without the front diff and half shafts as an "up yours" to BMW.
Was the 2CVs flat?

Twincam16

27,646 posts

144 months

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Thursday 27th September 2012 quote quote all
Luke. said:
CDP said:
BeirutTaxi said:
The old Panda 4x4 is loveable in many ways.. So dirt cheap and simple!

As an interesting fact of the day.. I think alongside the Defender the really old Panda's are the only production car in the world to have a totally flat windscreen smile
The Lotus Esprit S1/S2/S3 only had flat glass and looked a treat.


Fiat ought to do a variant without the front diff and half shafts as an "up yours" to BMW.
Was the 2CVs flat?
Pretty sure the Lamborghini Countach was as well.

In fact, there was a time from the dawn of motoring up to the Forties when you could only have a flat windscreen because they didn't know how to curve the glass while making it sufficiently strong or possible to see through.

CDP

5,048 posts

140 months

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Twincam16 said:
Pretty sure the Lamborghini Countach was as well.

In fact, there was a time from the dawn of motoring up to the Forties when you could only have a flat windscreen because they didn't know how to curve the glass while making it sufficiently strong or possible to see through.
Then in the fifties they worked it out and went mad with wrap around screens.

BigTom85

980 posts

57 months

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MoelyCrio said:
Is the Suzuki SX4 not 'A' segment then?

They seem to pick up all the "need a small 4x4" sales round here.
Lets not forget its sister, Fiat's own Sedici.

Gliaviate

6 posts

33 months

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I love small cars. If the performance, pricing and towing limits are improved over the old model I'd be seriously interested in this.

DCor

59 posts

101 months

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SprintSpeciale said:
These little gems are proof that you can have an interesting, enjoyable, fully warranted car for a relatively small outlay. In their way, they are just as impressive as the more exotic stuff that usually attracts the attention of the PH massive.
Couldn't agree with you more. We have a 2005 1.2 Elegance as our 'city car' that I use every day to work - long overdue a change but I still enjoy driving it as much today as the day we collected it! If it suits your life style the Panda can be a hard car to beat !

Jayfish

3,214 posts

89 months

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irish boy said:
Love mine...bought it for the big snow of 2010 and couldn't bring myself to sell so it's a permanent fixture in the garage now.

Had some cracking drives in it....much more capable than people realise.

That's brilliant!







What'd you tow it up there with?

wink

Liking the new version, 85hp with the potentially added weight might be a little low, although I'm sure is ecu will be tweakable.

prg123

653 posts

49 months

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I like all fiat pandas they are great fun to drive,and very underrated

- Pete

Mouse1903

722 posts

39 months

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I'd love a twin air 4x4 for the winter, great little car. I'm a big fan of the old Panda and the new one is definitely improved in and out

ukmike2000

455 posts

54 months

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BigTom85 said:
Lets not forget its sister, Fiat's own Sedici.
In the UK at least, the majority of the Sedici's are 4x4 and yet the majority of the Suzuki SX4s are 2wd. A bizarre twist. I believe that Fiat no longer import the Sedici which is available in European markets with the 2.0JTDm diesel and a facelifted nose.

The Panda 4x4 running gear was developed by Steyr-Puch who were also responsible for the Haflinger/Derflinger/Pinzgauer all terrain vehicles, which possibly accounts for the Panda's cross country abilities.

rogerhudson

257 posts

44 months

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Isn't the Mini countryman in the same 'A'segment ( crap marketing-speak), this Panda looks a better deal on most measures. A friend has had a Dacia Duster in Croatia for a year now and I like it a lot, but this Fiat should be better.

LuS1fer

31,766 posts

131 months

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Fifth Gear didn't like the Twin Air engine in the Panda and basically said to buy the 4 banger.

hora

18,801 posts

97 months

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How do people cope with the 0-60?

SystemParanoia

9,696 posts

84 months

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you dont get to 60 off road smile
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