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alexpa
514 posts
42 months
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thinfourth2 said: alexpa said: It must be awesome to be you ok, silly post, but hey...
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DeltaEvo2
411 posts
62 months
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Pandaaaaa!  Cracking little car.
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MoelyCrio
1,711 posts
52 months
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Is the Suzuki SX4 not 'A' segment then?
They seem to pick up all the "need a small 4x4" sales round here.
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Twincam16
27,438 posts
128 months
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WMP said: Twincam16 said: I like the Panda 4x4. I often wonder whether Fiat could get away with lowering and stiffening the suspension, fitting a more powerful engine and making it a kind of latter-day mini-Integrale.
Come to think of it, isn't there a Lancia based on the Panda floorplan? They could do it with that and even call it an Integrale. Then enter it in the IRC. That sounds like a plan! If Fiat made this car as the next 100 hp it would be awesome. Is it too small to comply with the WRC regs though? That's why I suggested IRC. There are interesting regulation changes coming for IRC next year that'll effectively be the same as the old Group A regulations, requiring a homologation run of 3500, the idea being to use more production cars and keep costs down. I love the idea of a kind of scaled-down modern Integrale. This with the 100HP engine, only tuned to put out much more.
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LuS1fer
28,901 posts
115 months
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MoelyCrio said: Is the Suzuki SX4 not 'A' segment then?
They seem to pick up all the "need a small 4x4" sales round here. The SZ3 and SZ4 are 2WD and seem to represent the bulk of SX4s round here, including my in-laws.
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CDP
4,639 posts
124 months
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BeirutTaxi said: The old Panda 4x4 is loveable in many ways.. So dirt cheap and simple! As an interesting fact of the day.. I think alongside the Defender the really old Panda's are the only production car in the world to have a totally flat windscreen The Lotus Esprit S1/S2/S3 only had flat glass and looked a treat. Fiat ought to do a variant without the front diff and half shafts as an "up yours" to BMW.
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Luke.
5,809 posts
120 months
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CDP said: BeirutTaxi said: The old Panda 4x4 is loveable in many ways.. So dirt cheap and simple! As an interesting fact of the day.. I think alongside the Defender the really old Panda's are the only production car in the world to have a totally flat windscreen The Lotus Esprit S1/S2/S3 only had flat glass and looked a treat. Fiat ought to do a variant without the front diff and half shafts as an "up yours" to BMW. Was the 2CVs flat?
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Twincam16
27,438 posts
128 months
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Luke. said: CDP said: BeirutTaxi said: The old Panda 4x4 is loveable in many ways.. So dirt cheap and simple! As an interesting fact of the day.. I think alongside the Defender the really old Panda's are the only production car in the world to have a totally flat windscreen The Lotus Esprit S1/S2/S3 only had flat glass and looked a treat. Fiat ought to do a variant without the front diff and half shafts as an "up yours" to BMW. Was the 2CVs flat? Pretty sure the Lamborghini Countach was as well. In fact, there was a time from the dawn of motoring up to the Forties when you could only have a flat windscreen because they didn't know how to curve the glass while making it sufficiently strong or possible to see through.
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CDP
4,639 posts
124 months
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Twincam16 said: Pretty sure the Lamborghini Countach was as well.
In fact, there was a time from the dawn of motoring up to the Forties when you could only have a flat windscreen because they didn't know how to curve the glass while making it sufficiently strong or possible to see through. Then in the fifties they worked it out and went mad with wrap around screens.
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BigTom85
709 posts
41 months
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MoelyCrio said: Is the Suzuki SX4 not 'A' segment then?
They seem to pick up all the "need a small 4x4" sales round here. Lets not forget its sister, Fiat's own Sedici.
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Gliaviate
3 posts
17 months
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I love small cars. If the performance, pricing and towing limits are improved over the old model I'd be seriously interested in this.
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DCor
41 posts
85 months
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SprintSpeciale said: These little gems are proof that you can have an interesting, enjoyable, fully warranted car for a relatively small outlay. In their way, they are just as impressive as the more exotic stuff that usually attracts the attention of the PH massive. Couldn't agree with you more. We have a 2005 1.2 Elegance as our 'city car' that I use every day to work - long overdue a change but I still enjoy driving it as much today as the day we collected it! If it suits your life style the Panda can be a hard car to beat !
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Jayfish
2,252 posts
73 months
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irish boy said: Love mine...bought it for the big snow of 2010 and couldn't bring myself to sell so it's a permanent fixture in the garage now. Had some cracking drives in it....much more capable than people realise.  That's brilliant! What'd you tow it up there with?  Liking the new version, 85hp with the potentially added weight might be a little low, although I'm sure is ecu will be tweakable.
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prg123
434 posts
33 months
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I like all fiat pandas they are great fun to drive,and very underrated
- Pete
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Mouse1903
516 posts
23 months
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I'd love a twin air 4x4 for the winter, great little car. I'm a big fan of the old Panda and the new one is definitely improved in and out
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ukmike2000
291 posts
38 months
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BigTom85 said: Lets not forget its sister, Fiat's own Sedici. In the UK at least, the majority of the Sedici's are 4x4 and yet the majority of the Suzuki SX4s are 2wd. A bizarre twist. I believe that Fiat no longer import the Sedici which is available in European markets with the 2.0JTDm diesel and a facelifted nose. The Panda 4x4 running gear was developed by Steyr-Puch who were also responsible for the Haflinger/Derflinger/Pinzgauer all terrain vehicles, which possibly accounts for the Panda's cross country abilities.
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rogerhudson
84 posts
28 months
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Isn't the Mini countryman in the same 'A'segment ( crap marketing-speak), this Panda looks a better deal on most measures. A friend has had a Dacia Duster in Croatia for a year now and I like it a lot, but this Fiat should be better.
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LuS1fer
28,901 posts
115 months
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Fifth Gear didn't like the Twin Air engine in the Panda and basically said to buy the 4 banger.
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hora
16,675 posts
81 months
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How do people cope with the 0-60?
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SystemParanoia
8,684 posts
68 months
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you dont get to 60 off road
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