RE: Paris 2012: Porsche 911 Carrera 4

[M666 EVO]

LuS1fer said:

If nothing else, that car makes me a bigger fan of the 997 - the new headlamps look a bit crap.

The NEW headlamps are OLD Carrera, Shirley?

[JTJ]

LuS1fer said:

If nothing else, that car makes me a bigger fan of the 997 - the new headlamps look a bit crap.

+1

[DeltaEvo2]

Look another Porsche which looks like...erm...any other Porsche.

[80quattro]

RINGMEISTER said:

Sorry for being pedantic but shouldn't it be 'SHOOTING BREAK' and not 'shooting brake'??? Surely the purpose of this vehicle is for toffs to load up the extra luggage area with guns and go hunt some foxes in their spare time, hence the name, no?

Erm ,no http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting-brake

HTH

[loveice]

Are you sure 991 Carrera 4 has wider rear track?

I'm pretty sure only the Carrera 4S has the wider rear track like the Turbo.

That's one of the major selling point for 996 and 997 Carrera 4S...

[needham]

PhantomPH said:

MIP1983 said:

Great scott, a non-fugly panemerra. That's a novel idea. That thing deserves a PH artical to itself surely.

Absolutely! First Panamera I've seen and actually wanted. Well done Porsche - you've managed to successfully polish a visual turd!

You can polish a turd, you can rinse it in Chanel No5, and tie a red ribbon around it....it's still a turd.

This photo is a clever arty photo of a blinged motor which could only be successfully driven from Alderley Edge to the car park at Old Trafford.

[Beefmeister]

loveice said:

Are you sure 991 Carrera 4 has wider rear track?

I'm pretty sure only the Carrera 4S has the wider rear track like the Turbo.

That's one of the major selling point for 996 and 997 Carrera 4S...

For the 991 generation the Carrera 4 & 4S both have the wider hips.

[Dapster]

needham said:

This photo is a clever arty photo of a blinged motor which could only be successfully driven from Alderley Edge to the car park at Old Trafford.

Evo, Car, Autocar, Fifth Gear and Top Gear as far as I have read all rate the Panamera as one of the best, if not, the best drivers car they have driven in the class. You may not like the styling or indeed, you may not like the people you think drive them, but to dismiss the Panamera as a footballers wife special is a little uninformed isn't it?

[chrisironside]

That's the best looking 911 cabriolet yet in my opinion.

Loving the new 911 and can't wait for the next GT3!

[Digga]

JTJ said:

LuS1fer said:

If nothing else, that car makes me a bigger fan of the 997 - the new headlamps look a bit crap.

+1

+ Another.

That car, in that colour and with those wheels just looks so right. I'd dearly love to have the cash to own one - knowing as I do that I'd seldom have the time to use it.

[AyBee]

M666 EVO said:

Just give us the Turbo please Porsche

WE WANT ZE TURBO!

Really? When you say "we", did you mean "I" because I want the GT3, GT3RS, GT2 and GT2RS

LuS1fer said:

If nothing else, that car makes me a bigger fan of the 997 - the new headlamps look a bit crap.

The only good thing about it is that the 991 will push down 997 prices

[LuS1fer]

Dapster said:

needham said:

This photo is a clever arty photo of a blinged motor which could only be successfully driven from Alderley Edge to the car park at Old Trafford.

Evo, Car, Autocar, Fifth Gear and Top Gear as far as I have read all rate the Panamera as one of the best, if not, the best drivers car they have driven in the class. You may not like the styling or indeed, you may not like the people you think drive them, but to dismiss the Panamera as a footballers wife special is a little uninformed isn't it?

It was unfair. I see John Terry was driving his on the news this morning in Arian Silver. I'll bet Porsche are pleased.

[garypotter]

[quote=Caractacus]

I've not seen many Panameras in the UK,


Depends which part of the UK you live, many in Surrey south London area, unfortunately as still an ugly car

[Ashley1987]

The panamera looks fantastic. Bloody good show boys. Yah Rah rah rah.

[Gixer_fan]

7-speed manual gearbox? Big deal, I once had a Mitsubishi Colt with 8 on the floor...

Edited by Gixer_fan on Friday 28th September 13:56

[wa1sh99]

I really like the 991 styling - had the opportunity to ride in a Carrera S and it was great. Really excited to see the GT3 though

[cvega]

this Panamera makes much more sense than the "sedan" one! liking it. 911, meh.

[bobberz]

I've seen a number of 991s and definitely believe the styling is much improved over the 997 (I like the lower, wider stance, plus the slim taillights), but it was only after hearing one let off the throttle at about 25MPH that I started to want one. Had kind of a raspy growl, that reminded me of a rally car for some reason.

Considering the performance increases of the "vanilla" 991s over their 997 counterparts, the inevitable GT3, GT3RS, & GT2 should be epic!

Considering the 997 GT2RS accomplished 0-60 in 2.5s, the thought of a 991 GT2RS is staggering. They can't possibly make it much quicker?

As for the Panamera Shooting Brake, I think it looks stunning! The headlights are a bit fussy (would be remedied on the production version), but they've totally fixed the back end. Porsche really should replace the current Panamera range with this body style; a much more elegant & cohesive design.