Dash Cameras

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rich888

2,610 posts

199 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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iacabu said:
I ordered my mount and cables from Joovuu on Tuesday, the same day I ordered my Mobius from banggood... My camera arrived yesterday but just had an email this afternoon saying Joovuu have shipped my order. I was expecting it delivered by today!
I've heard quite a few negative comments made about JooVuu and Banggood, but when you consider just how many items they ship out it's not surprising that things do occasionally go wrong. When things do go wrong it is then that you find out just how good (or bad) their after-sales service is.

You would be better off ordering Mobius and parts direct from the manufacturer in China, the stuff arrives in 7 days. Unlike many other companies Mobius do seem to have a very good reputation.

As for the 0806, due to some of the early units being somewhat unreliable at the moment I wouldn't order it from overseas or an internet seller without a physical location or a geographic landline to phone them on, because when these things malfunction you really want to be able to speak to someone.

Like I mentioned before, I strongly recommend you purchase the 0806 from www.combi.org.uk and the Mobius from the manufacturer's ebay page which is http://stores.ebay.co.uk/eletoponline365

iacabu said:
ETA - when I click the M to save a video, does it save either side of that clip? What if an accident happens to be at the time of the change of clip?
If you have fitted a 32GB SD card then you will have approx 5 hours of recording time, with a 64GB you will have approx 10 hours recording time, and with a 128GB card will have well over 20 hours recording time before the oldest video clips are overwritten. In the event something does happen then eject the card and copy the video files to your computer. I have mine set to 3 minute clips so that the file sizes aren't too big. You can join them using Registrator Viewer which is a well know dash cam player, or use something like iMovie to join the clips. I tend to view individual clips using VLC media player which is available for PC and Mac.

I went for a 128GB SD card because I figured that it would save over a weeks worth of recording before over-writing the earliest stuff, so might be useful if one of those speed camera envelopes dropped through the letter box because I could then take a look back at the footage. There are so many scams going on nowadays that it's well worth keeping a video record of your driving just in case someone somewhere does try to scam you.

skip_1

3,460 posts

190 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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All that jazz said:
It says in the blurb that it records the clip before or after in a rather intelligent way depending on how far into the current file it is. I've never put mine to the test so can't comment if it works or not.

I run a 32GB Sandisk UHS class 10 card in mine and use the shortest recording period, which I think is 2 mins. Mine is also on the standard battery, no capacitor. With the exception of one case, mine has never crashed, corrupted a file nor overheated in the 2 years of heavy use it gets.
Touch wood, mine is two or three years old now and still on original battery. One crash early on in it's life but none since. I purchased a wide angle last year to cover the second car too. Very happy with the Mobius cams, fit nicely behind/alongside the rearview mirror and cannot be seen easily from outside the car.

rich888

2,610 posts

199 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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SEE YA said:
SEE YA said:
SEE YA said:
Funk said:
SEE YA said:
Funk said:
Sir Bagalot said:
Can someone remind me the best place to buy a 0806?

Ta
Joovuu have it with CPL for a ton currently: https://www.joovuu.com/gb/home/245-mini-0806.html
There customer care is very poor, I got sent wrong camera, then it did not work.
No updates on my order, still waiting on my order after a few months.

I have sent many email's just left hanging waiting on a reply.
My mate's 0806 came from there next-day and no issues. <shrug>
Update still on going, I moved to a new address told them and updated on there file system.

Weeks before they finally, sent it out after many emails to them for updates.

They sent it to my old address and blame me for the mistake.

There excuse is for security reasons, sent to the first address I give when I made my first order.


They did not check the order details ?

So its on going with them still?
Still on going furious
Update looks like its going to Trading Standards?

They said no record of my emails, or on there system about a change of address.
I even wrote it on the return slip when I sent back my fault 0806
I also sent a copy of the email, to show it had been done and sent out.

After forty email now to sort this out. I got a email today MATTER CLOSED my fault it went to the wrong address?

So BEWARE STAY AWAY FROM THIS COMPANY.
If you paid for the 0806 using a credit card then raise a dispute with the credit-card company who will charge-back the costs from the supplier and put the money back in your account, and pretty much the same will happen if you raise a dispute with PayPal, If you sent emails to JooVuu then these will be useful as evidence of what was said, the fact that jooVuu has now 'lost' your emails is irrelevant if you can prove you sent them. Just make sure you keep all records of communications because this could drag on for months.

SEE YA

3,522 posts

245 months

Saturday 6th June 2015
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Thanks I even put the new address on the return slip as well.

Its worse customer care, I have come across in my life so far.

CoolC

4,216 posts

214 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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So, as promised, here is a quick show-and-tell of my K1S install.

Into a 2013 Ford Focus Estate.

First things first, where shall I store/place the main unit? Well as there is a sunglasses holder in the roof which I don't use as I wear prescription glasses I though that would do nicely, and luckily it is spot on size wise.

So, fit the rear camera first, as that is going to be the most faff.

Centre boot trim pops of easily, as does the cable boot thingy.



Then feed the cable to the front



I forgot to take a picture of the front end strip down, but it was remove door seals, grab handle and sun visor, along with the centre roof pod and feed the cables through.
You can see the front camera, GPS reciever, and record switch cables here too


Fortunately there is a fuse box in the passenger footwell, so with a add-a-circuit I could draw power from there.

Cables hidden behind A post trim and dash side pod cover.



Now just to tidy up the cables, refit all the stripped down parts and off we go.





Ended up having to fit the front camera right over to the right so as not to have the huge centre drop down for the rain/light sensor and Ford Sync box blocking the view.







There was one strange thing though. When I first set it all up the main unit was facing up when the glasses holder was closed, but as soon as it was closed the unit would stop recording confused even just holding it in that position with the holder still open it would stop. BUT with the unit facing down everything works hunky-dory.

triple5

751 posts

145 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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CoolC said:
So, as promised, here is a quick show-and-tell of my K1S install.
Nice clean install, would be good to hear how you find the picture quality.

TankRizzo

7,269 posts

193 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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Just ordered a Mobius. Are Halfords still selling the hardwire kit which plugs into the fusebox? I can't see it on their website...

madbadger

11,563 posts

244 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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TankRizzo said:
Just ordered a Mobius. Are Halfords still selling the hardwire kit which plugs into the fusebox? I can't see it on their website...
Do other people do it online? Sounds a good idea.

harry.

28 posts

106 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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rich888 said:
Ouch, that singing sounds painful, you know that you could always mute the sound so you don't have to damage your hearing cool

If it's any help I've been using a 128GB Sandisk class 10 Ultra micro SD card for several weeks now which I formatted FAT32 on my Mac and it's worked perfectly well with no problems to date.

Have also tested it out with a smaller and cheaper 64GB Kingston Class 10 micro SD card which worked flawlessly, which I formatted FAT32 using Disk Utility which is built in to most (if not all) Apple Macs.
Thanks for that Rich, thinking of either a 64 or 128gb for the trip, that should easily be enough for 5/6/7 hours of recording per day

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

177 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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I have read a lot of this thread, but still confused/unclear about which kit to get.

I drive a Volvo C70 convertible and, following a very near miss with a van which nearly had me, want to permanently fit a forward facing camera. Being a convertible, I would like to get one which is hidden as much as possible when the roof is down and the car is parked.

Can I buy this

http://www.combi.org.uk/products/89/NEW-Mini-0806-...

and an SD card and Bob's your uncle?

Thanks in advance.

PS not interested in ordering from Outer Mongolia to save a few quid.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Yes you can smile

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

177 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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charltjr said:
Yes you can smile
Thanks.

Could you recommend an SD card please? I'll then get it bought.

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

177 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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Any suggestions on size/make of SD card please?

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

234 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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I've got an SJ4000 in my truck, Go Pro quality for £60.

Using cheap memory card however and some clips are unplayable

rich888

2,610 posts

199 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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JumboBeef said:
charltjr said:
Yes you can smile
Thanks.

Could you recommend an SD card please? I'll then get it bought.
I would recommend that you purchase larger capacity SD cards for use with the 0806 because of the larger file sizes involved. I have my 0806 set to record in 3 minute clips at 2560 x 1080 resolution, these work out to be approx 503MB in size.

And contrary to the advertising blurb for the 0806, it doesn't currently write to both SD cards because there is a flaw in the software, if both SD slots are fitted with cards it will write to the card in slot B, then loop round and overwrite the oldest footage on the card in slot B when full, and will ignore the card in slot A which is very annoying indeed!

Have a word with Combi because they do sell micro SD cards for the 0806, though I've purchased a couple of Kingston 64GB class 10 micro SD cards from Amazon that have worked extremely well, link http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B009X0G304 and also purchased a larger Sandisk Ultra 128GB class 10 micro SD card which has also proved to be extremely reliable, link http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-microSDXC-Memory-A...

You will need to format the cards in your computer if they are larger than 32GB, if you have a Mac then use 'Disk Utility' and format 'FAT32' which is 'MS-DOS (FAT)' in the format options drop-down menu, and make sure you erase the SD card and not your HD.

Hope this helps.

Silverbullet767

10,704 posts

206 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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Still got my old blackvue DG400 II which is still providing good clips, but around 1 in 30 clips it does is now unreadable, and knowing my luck that 1 would be the one I need, the software does a good job in trying to recover some of the clips, but there's a few that it can't. What's the next step? Not really bothered about budget to a degree, just want something discreet and high quality.

Thinking of retiring the DG400 to rear facing duties and getting a new one. Also, will the old one manage filming through a tinted rear window?

Edited for speeling mistooks.

Edited by Silverbullet767 on Saturday 13th June 23:10

rich888

2,610 posts

199 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Silverbullet767 said:
Still got my old blackvue DG400 II which is still providing good clips, but around 1 in 30 clips it does is now unreadable, and knowing my luck that 1 would be the one I need, the software does a good job in trying to recover some of the clips, but there's a few that it can't. What's the next step? Not really bothered about budget to a degree, just want something discreet and high quality.

Thinking of retiring the DG400 to rear facing duties and getting a new one. Also, will the old one manage filming through a tinted rear window?

Edited for speeling mistooks.

Edited by Silverbullet767 on Saturday 13th June 23:10
It might just be that your SD card is knackered which is relatively cheap to fix by replacing it with a new card.

Alternatively replace it with an 0801, 0805, 0806 or Mobius camera.

If it's any help I purchased a Blackvue DR500GW-HD a couple of years ago which cost quite a lot of money and it was totally outclassed by the Eprance 0801 dashcam which is at the cheaper end of the market but nevertheless produces outstanding results in normal conditions. The 0805 is supposed to be better especially in low light and night-time as is the 0806 which has been somewhat problematic to date though the latest models may be better.

The wild card in the dash cam market is the Mobius action cam which has proved to be outstanding where it counts, and that is reliability, video quality and cost, and it excels in all these departments except night-time video quality, it even records pin sharp number-plates of oncoming cars in conditions that the 0806 blurs. You can buy the Mobius direct from the manufacturer via their ebay page, just remember to buy the 3m cable, USB to cigarette adapter and windscreen suction or permanent mount. I purchased the bog standard 'A' lens model. Link is: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/eletoponline365/m.html?_...

Ought to mention that Mobius has an astonishingly good reputation.

Silverbullet767

10,704 posts

206 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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rich888 said:
It might just be that your SD card is knackered which is relatively cheap to fix by replacing it with a new card.

Alternatively replace it with an 0801, 0805, 0806 or Mobius camera.

If it's any help I purchased a Blackvue DR500GW-HD a couple of years ago which cost quite a lot of money and it was totally outclassed by the Eprance 0801 dashcam which is at the cheaper end of the market but nevertheless produces outstanding results in normal conditions. The 0805 is supposed to be better especially in low light and night-time as is the 0806 which has been somewhat problematic to date though the latest models may be better.

The wild card in the dash cam market is the Mobius action cam which has proved to be outstanding where it counts, and that is reliability, video quality and cost, and it excels in all these departments except night-time video quality, it even records pin sharp number-plates of oncoming cars in conditions that the 0806 blurs. You can buy the Mobius direct from the manufacturer via their ebay page, just remember to buy the 3m cable, USB to cigarette adapter and windscreen suction or permanent mount. I purchased the bog standard 'A' lens model. Link is: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/eletoponline365/m.html?_...

Ought to mention that Mobius has an astonishingly good reputation.
Good point about the card, I'll try a new one and see if that sorts things, wouldn't like to try and remove that sticky mount if I can help it! But failing that, the Eprance ones look like a cost effective solution. Seems as if (from my limited googling) that the 0806 is unproven yet and the 0805 is the best bet. Hopefully the memory card will sort it though. Thanks.

Funk

26,274 posts

209 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Silverbullet767 said:
Good point about the card, I'll try a new one and see if that sorts things, wouldn't like to try and remove that sticky mount if I can help it! But failing that, the Eprance ones look like a cost effective solution. Seems as if (from my limited googling) that the 0806 is unproven yet and the 0805 is the best bet. Hopefully the memory card will sort it though. Thanks.
One of my mates bought an 0806 and I have to say it seems to be up to par. His dad bought one too after seeing my mate's and he's had no complaints either.

Just to balance it out, I sent my 0805 back as the quality was terrible so it seems it may be something of a lottery...

Silverbullet767

10,704 posts

206 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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It may be just because I'm drunk right now (many many vodkas), but I want to share a story (even though I shouldn't) and it may effect my 'deal' that I struck with an unnamed organisation (cough BMW), but here goes. It's a story involving a dashcam (quelle surprise on this thread!) But a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away, I took my car in for some engine work. I was experiencing some misfires and got error codes all over the shop (335i is notorious for misfires) long story short I got my car back with a 2K bill for 6X injectors and spark plugs. But me being the avid PH'er I had a dash cam, so I thought I'd review the footage. And what I seen (queue 'think of the children' meme) shocked me. Over 4 days the staff of the company who shall remain nameless took my car for several joyrides, even boasting about how much of my petrol he was using on the audio footage. One joyride in particular took the piss. 137mph on public highways! Don't really want to post the video because it may attract the daily wail and police presence, but be assured it does exist! (apologies for the lack of footage, but it really would stir the hornets nest)

After seeing the footage, I contacted the dealership with a screenshot of the video software with 137mph with the caption 'care to explain why my car under your care is shown doing 137mph on a public highway?' I then got a call from the dealer manager with a thousand apologies and what really stuck in my head was 'bring your car down and we'll fill the tank up for you sir' no f**king way I thought and I googled for the manager of BMW. I send him an email and I got a call from the head of customer care, this was when I sent the video footage, he then said would I like to have a meeting with the dealer in question to discuss how we may go forward. I agreed to this.

As apoplectic as I was I agreed to this meeting to see what the dealer in question had to say for themselves. So I turned up for the meeting with some nervous looking dealer managers. They tried their best to say that a car like this was designed for those sort of speeds and the employee in question was being disciplined, but I wasn't having it. Call me a thief if you like, but my confidence in my car was zero. How was I to know that some unknown damage could have occurred due to the treatment it received during it's time under a certain dealers? I demanded a warranty for as long as I was continuing to pay for the car (circa 2 years payments) a new set of tyres (I forgot to mention, the tyres that were on the car were winter tyres supplied by the dealer, bearing in mind this was a few months ago in the winter, and they were only rated to 135mph, so as far as I was concerned, they were used outside manufactures guidelines. Another request was that I was refunded the monies paid for the engine work carried out, plus a service plan for the next two years. They were reluctant at first, and even refused. But after I had said that I would be taking legal action, they soon changed their tune.

Moral of the story is. Check your footage after a trip to the dealership.

The person who took my car for a joyride got the sack as you would expect. The reason for me not releasing the footage is I don't want to see someone lose their licence as well as losing their job, someone in that kind of job will need their licence. I didn't want to rob a man of his livelihood. I have no doubt that that would've made the rags if I wanted it to.

What I received was.

A full insured warranty for as long as I am paying for the car.
A service plan
New tyres
Any immediate work done free of charge
2k of previous work refunded.

If that makes me a bad person, then I'm sorry, I just wanted to have complete security for my car as long as I was paying for it.

Maybe after the 2 years I'll post the footage. But I owe it to BMW to keep it to myself until their end if the bargain is fulfilled.

OK, this took me waaay to long to write with many spelling edits and I'm far too drunk. But as I said, review your footage. It may come up with some interesting results!

ETA: There's probably loads I've forgot, but I've wanted to post that for ages!

Edited by Silverbullet767 on Sunday 14th June 02:04