The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at This/O/T [Vol XI]

The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at This/O/T [Vol XI]

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LHD

17,001 posts

188 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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olly22n said:
LHD said:
Right.

PDK/DSG is awesome.

So much so i'm having DSG in my Golf GTI.

It's much better at changing gear on a kesselrun than i'll ever be and it allows me to concentrate on braking and steering.

I'm sorry, but i don't quite see what the big deal is.
In the right car, its probably ace. Like SMG in the M5/CSL

Personally, my major gripe is the noise.
Not really going to be an issue in the turbocharged future ahead.

Double-Clutch Autos are better than probably 90% of people driving on the roads today.

L100NYY

35,221 posts

244 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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LHD said:
Not really going to be an issue in the turbocharged future ahead.

Double-Clutch Autos are better than probably 90% of people driving on the roads today.
What about the 10% frown

LHD

17,001 posts

188 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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L100NYY said:
LHD said:
Not really going to be an issue in the turbocharged future ahead.

Double-Clutch Autos are better than probably 90% of people driving on the roads today.
What about the 10% frown
Sadly majority rules.

I'm one of the 90% so it's progress for me.

I get more satisfaction stringing a piece of road together - the Evo X SST i had was a case in point, i enjoyed the fact the next gear was just a flick of the finger away - it allowed me more time to think and place the car correctly.

I'd go so far to say i've never driven a car as hard or as quickly - the gearbox allowed me to do that.

L100NYY

35,221 posts

244 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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I feel

Happier
More comfortable
In control
Faster

In equivalent manual over an auto.

Sorry.

Trommel

19,164 posts

260 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Horses for courses.

LHD

17,001 posts

188 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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To be honest, we've done this debate to death before.

As we all know, i'm in the 'Auto's are ace' camp.

S3_Graham

12,830 posts

200 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Chaps, I've been tasked at work with replacing our engineering vehicle.

It's a Volvo V70 D5 AWD. Work have said can be new / leased or bought outright nearly new.

Which would be cheaper / better deal.

Replacement must be diesel, must be estate, bluetooth and xenons are highly desirable.

I've spec'd a new 320d m-sport @ £33k. A4 is £32k, C class is £32k, Vovle is 28k + options, Octavia VRS is £25k.

You can get an old shape (E91?) 320d kitted out with 5k miles for £25k

L100NYY

35,221 posts

244 months

hadenough!

3,785 posts

261 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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hadenough! said:
Still changing my mind...what's the consensus on an e61 550i manual, 1 owner, 60k miles, full bmw sh with an ins 2 just completed for £12k...assuming it all checks out.

Cheers

Phill
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LHD

17,001 posts

188 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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hadenough! said:
hadenough! said:
Still changing my mind...what's the consensus on an e61 550i manual, 1 owner, 60k miles, full bmw sh with an ins 2 just completed for £12k...assuming it all checks out.

Cheers

Phill
Am I invisible in here?
You don't give an age.

Doesn't sound all that cheap unless it's less than 3 years old...

Zwolf

25,867 posts

207 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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LHD said:
hadenough! said:
hadenough! said:
Still changing my mind...what's the consensus on an e61 550i manual, 1 owner, 60k miles, full bmw sh with an ins 2 just completed for £12k...assuming it all checks out.

Cheers

Phill
Am I invisible in here?
You don't give an age.

Doesn't sound all that cheap unless it's less than 3 years old...
If it's an LCI car, aren't there about six of them in Iberian conservatory configuration?

S3_Graham

12,830 posts

200 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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LHD said:
hadenough! said:
hadenough! said:
Still changing my mind...what's the consensus on an e61 550i manual, 1 owner, 60k miles, full bmw sh with an ins 2 just completed for £12k...assuming it all checks out.

Cheers

Phill
Am I invisible in here?
You don't give an age.

Doesn't sound all that cheap unless it's less than 3 years old...
Good cars, about righ price wise isn't it? Cheapest on AUC is £14k for a '56'

hadenough!

3,785 posts

261 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Zwolf said:
LHD said:
hadenough! said:
hadenough! said:
Still changing my mind...what's the consensus on an e61 550i manual, 1 owner, 60k miles, full bmw sh with an ins 2 just completed for £12k...assuming it all checks out.

Cheers

Phill
Am I invisible in here?
You don't give an age.

Doesn't sound all that cheap unless it's less than 3 years old...
If it's an LCI car, aren't there about six of them in Iberian conservatory configuration?
Apologies chaps, it's an 06 so pre lci.

I reckon it's worth £11k tops, even WBAC bid £9.5k trouble is there are so few 550is let alone Spanish ones so its a bit tricky to put a value on.

I believe their quantities are in single figures.


Zwolf

25,867 posts

207 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Fewer still with a single owner, fairly low mileage and the recent Inspection 2 probably accounts for a grand. So long as it isn't in imminent need of a set of boots, it's probably in the haggleable ballpark of fair.

hadenough!

3,785 posts

261 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Ta muchly, that's what I was thinking, if everything checks out and it doesn't have a pond in the boot (pano roof) it may just be the start of a plan.

Frik

13,542 posts

244 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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S3_Graham said:
Chaps, I've been tasked at work with replacing our engineering vehicle.

It's a Volvo V70 D5 AWD. Work have said can be new / leased or bought outright nearly new.

Which would be cheaper / better deal.

Replacement must be diesel, must be estate, bluetooth and xenons are highly desirable.

I've spec'd a new 320d m-sport @ £33k. A4 is £32k, C class is £32k, Vovle is 28k + options, Octavia VRS is £25k.

You can get an old shape (E91?) 320d kitted out with 5k miles for £25k
It's almost a meme, but what about a Yeti? Bluetooth/satnav kit is excellent.

olly755

3,070 posts

163 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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hadenough! said:
Still changing my mind...what's the consensus on an e61 550i manual, 1 owner, 60k miles, full bmw sh with an ins 2 just completed for £12k...assuming it all checks out.

Cheers

Phill

That particular one adds up, and was on my radar for a while.

But I'm recently a bit meh over the E61 after spotting an identical 530d in the street and noting to self how dated they were starting to look.

Surely we buy cars like that to do a job? In that case, the 5 pot Mondeo Titanium (yawn) where my money went was at least current, newer, half the miles, half the price, has something called ride quality, probably won't be far off as quickmonce mapped, and will do the job equally as well. Even if we're not comparing eggs wit eggs.

richtea78

5,574 posts

159 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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And the Mondeo will probably still be there in the morning given BMWs security doom and gloom

Aizle

12,429 posts

176 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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LHD said:
To be honest, we've done this debate to death before.

As we all know, i'm camp.
Well, quite.

In all seriousness, I've never driven a PDK/DSG/SMG/Other double clutch gearbox.

I can see the appeal in certain cars but for the most involving and satisfying experience I would go Spanish.

S3_Graham

12,830 posts

200 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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richtea78 said:
And the Mondeo will probably still be there in the morning given BMWs security doom and gloom
Recall has been sent out apparently
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