RE: Spotted: Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth
Discussion
SimonV8ster said:
If he has genuinely rejected an offer of 62K hes an idiot.
Totally with you on that one. A prize fool...So the fog lamps have been removed? If so, its not as it left the factory, therefore NEVER going to get 65k, or 50k for that matter.
But its nice to know there are comedians in the car selling game that can still entertain us!!
Beanoir said:
Yes but this isn't that car is it, it's just a pretend version made for the road, you can't compare the two, this is where I think people believe they are buying a rally/touring car legend in cars like this, when you're really not.
I think the people who are paying £50k+ for RS500 road cars like this know EXACTLY what they are buying. Why can't you understand that different people like different things????
I wouldn't want to pay £10m for a painting or sculpture.... but I can understand why people do and I don't think they are idiots.
M666 EVO said:
SimonV8ster said:
If he has genuinely rejected an offer of 62K hes an idiot.
Totally with you on that one. A prize fool...So the fog lamps have been removed? If so, its not as it left the factory, therefore NEVER going to get 65k, or 50k for that matter.
But its nice to know there are comedians in the car selling game that can still entertain us!!
advert says said:
A pair of new boxed optional front foglights are located in the boot exactly how the cars were supplied to the Ford dealers.
DHE said:
stevesingo said:
Is this the guy with the large Ford collection, who a couple of years ago picked up two delivery mileage E30 M3 Sport Evos. He made a tidy profit on those too.
An RS anoraks wet dream.
The RS500 is in the Cardiff area, whilst that collection is down the M4 in Swansea, there may be a connection.An RS anoraks wet dream.
This is the collection http://www.rsownersclub.co.uk/rsocbb/showthread.ph... and his RS500's don't have that registration.
M666 EVO said:
Totally with you on that one. A prize fool...
So the fog lamps have been removed? If so, its not as it left the factory, therefore NEVER going to get 65k, or 50k for that matter.
But its nice to know there are comedians in the car selling game that can still entertain us!!
There is someone a few posts above who will pay £50k for it. So the fog lamps have been removed? If so, its not as it left the factory, therefore NEVER going to get 65k, or 50k for that matter.
But its nice to know there are comedians in the car selling game that can still entertain us!!
Just don't know why some people find it so hard to understand... these cars ARE changing hands around £50k. This is the last one. Its gonna sell at 65k sooner or later.
How I now wish I had mothballed mine. A bit unique when I purchased it in 87 from a well-known Aston Martin and Rolls Royce garage in the north of England. In black, it only had a few hundred miles on it but it had gone to Aston Martin for some cosmetic changes. The silver RS500 decals on the bootlid and along the body were replaced with specially made red ones, the alloys were changed to Speedlines from the RS200, the interior was finished in grey leather with red piping and it had a mild performance upgrade to around 275bhp. It was supposed to have had an Aston Martin badge fitted, but believe, understandably, AM decided against in the end, although the dealer principal did put it in the glovebox.
Drove one when new and I'm afraid I much preferred my TVR at the time as a sports car... I've enjoyed a much quicker 4-seater performance saloon at rather lower cost for last 2 years, sadly now for sale on PH;
3 x rarer, 15 built
2 x as quick through the gears with 540bhp V8
25% of it's age
27% of it's price, and held steady at the bottom of it's depreciation curve
3 x rarer, 15 built
2 x as quick through the gears with 540bhp V8
25% of it's age
27% of it's price, and held steady at the bottom of it's depreciation curve
M666 EVO said:
I'm a prize fool for thinking this.
So the fog lamps have been removed? If so, its not as it left the factory, therefore NEVER going to get 65k, or 50k for that matter.
But its nice to know there are comedians in the car selling game that can still entertain us!!
Fixed that for you.So the fog lamps have been removed? If so, its not as it left the factory, therefore NEVER going to get 65k, or 50k for that matter.
But its nice to know there are comedians in the car selling game that can still entertain us!!
M666 EVO said:
SimonV8ster said:
If he has genuinely rejected an offer of 62K hes an idiot.
Totally with you on that one. A prize fool...So the fog lamps have been removed? If so, its not as it left the factory, therefore NEVER going to get 65k, or 50k for that matter.
But its nice to know there are comedians in the car selling game that can still entertain us!!
Many never were as the grills were for better ventilation to the engine etc.
Bit of research before typing would have told you this...
Only just spotted this thread.
Thank you to all the positive people :-)
All a bit academic as the car is now back in storage, and the adverts deleted a few weeks ago as its no longer for sale this year.
When the offer of 62K was made in the summer the asking price was best offer over 75K so quite a difference. I revised it down a month later given the current economic climate, until it went back into storage.
To all the doubters and people who think its ok to call people they dont know fools or idiots here you go :-
http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsL...
As you can see the ebay muppets had a bid as well. Hope that helps you sleep a bit better now.
I did vet the highest bidder and he was a chap from Aus and proved to me he had the money, he also had to budget on top of the bid price for circa 35% extras to cover import duties, but as I was seeking far more than his best bid I didnt follow it up. The underbidder was also very keen and has since bought another I believe.
In order to value a rare desirable item, first find another equal or better example, and then try to find it cheaper. You wont, the good ones are selling for 50k plus and have been for some time. The best known moonstone example has had an unsolicited offer of 70k rejected. These are all facts gents, not guestimates from internet warriors saying no one pays these kind of sums for old Sierras, when in fact they do.
The cars never really properly been for sale, as I dont need to sell it, lots of people though have asked me whats it worth so I thought I would test the market. Like anything it has a price and that was mine. If you want the best thats what its going to cost you.
Its an appreciating asset that I love owning, and thats what it would have taken for me to part with it.
The RS500s have only followed the trend that most other rare modern classic from the 80s have also gone through.
In the Ford world ask an enthusiast what car they would really like to own and a low miles original condition RS500 in moonstone blue is nearly always mentioned. How many are currently for sale ? none
If they dont float your boat not a problem. I notice though that not one person has actually slated the car or its condition.
If anyone has any genuine questions I am happy to answer them
Thank you to all the positive people :-)
All a bit academic as the car is now back in storage, and the adverts deleted a few weeks ago as its no longer for sale this year.
When the offer of 62K was made in the summer the asking price was best offer over 75K so quite a difference. I revised it down a month later given the current economic climate, until it went back into storage.
To all the doubters and people who think its ok to call people they dont know fools or idiots here you go :-
http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsL...
As you can see the ebay muppets had a bid as well. Hope that helps you sleep a bit better now.
I did vet the highest bidder and he was a chap from Aus and proved to me he had the money, he also had to budget on top of the bid price for circa 35% extras to cover import duties, but as I was seeking far more than his best bid I didnt follow it up. The underbidder was also very keen and has since bought another I believe.
In order to value a rare desirable item, first find another equal or better example, and then try to find it cheaper. You wont, the good ones are selling for 50k plus and have been for some time. The best known moonstone example has had an unsolicited offer of 70k rejected. These are all facts gents, not guestimates from internet warriors saying no one pays these kind of sums for old Sierras, when in fact they do.
The cars never really properly been for sale, as I dont need to sell it, lots of people though have asked me whats it worth so I thought I would test the market. Like anything it has a price and that was mine. If you want the best thats what its going to cost you.
Its an appreciating asset that I love owning, and thats what it would have taken for me to part with it.
The RS500s have only followed the trend that most other rare modern classic from the 80s have also gone through.
In the Ford world ask an enthusiast what car they would really like to own and a low miles original condition RS500 in moonstone blue is nearly always mentioned. How many are currently for sale ? none
If they dont float your boat not a problem. I notice though that not one person has actually slated the car or its condition.
If anyone has any genuine questions I am happy to answer them
Edited by TheShadow on Tuesday 2nd October 16:23
I might be alone here but even at the 'right' price, I don't see the attraction.
I've driven countless Cosworths over the years, some sheds, some in pretty decent condition, heavily modified and close to standard and every single time, I've been left feeling deflated and somewhat confused.
I want to like them, but for me, the hype is too great for the car.
I understand that at the time, they were literally a racing car you could walk into a Rallye Sport dealer (remember those?) and hand over your hard earned, but now, they are so ridiculously out of context, that they just don't work.
I was even more disappointed with the Escort, which was at the time my 'hero' car, not anymore!
The only saving grace is that if I had te money, I'd have the option of buying something else, something better, and I could keep a picture of this to remind me I could have done a lot worse.
I've driven countless Cosworths over the years, some sheds, some in pretty decent condition, heavily modified and close to standard and every single time, I've been left feeling deflated and somewhat confused.
I want to like them, but for me, the hype is too great for the car.
I understand that at the time, they were literally a racing car you could walk into a Rallye Sport dealer (remember those?) and hand over your hard earned, but now, they are so ridiculously out of context, that they just don't work.
I was even more disappointed with the Escort, which was at the time my 'hero' car, not anymore!
The only saving grace is that if I had te money, I'd have the option of buying something else, something better, and I could keep a picture of this to remind me I could have done a lot worse.
My Dad has had a black RS500 since new and I told him I'd disown him if he got rid of it. He didn't know how much they were worth now anyway until I sent him to the pistonheads classifieds. He passed away recently, and I wouldn't get rid of it even if you paid me 70K because to me it will remind me of him aways.
I still haven't driven it, and yeah it might not be the best drive I'll ever have, but it will mean the most to me.
Just got to find somewhere to store it now.
I still haven't driven it, and yeah it might not be the best drive I'll ever have, but it will mean the most to me.
Just got to find somewhere to store it now.
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