RE: Spotted: Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth

[stevesingo]

Is this the guy with the large Ford collection, who a couple of years ago picked up two delivery mileage E30 M3 Sport Evos. He made a tidy profit on those too.

An RS anoraks wet dream.

[TheProfessor]

Isn't there a guy, possibly been mentioned on here before who has a cracking collection of Cosworth's, some with significantly lower mileages than this one??

Or I may have stumbled across an article in one of the Blue Oval specialist magazines within the last couple of years??

[AyBee]

bigbadbikercats said:

"...this is the 499th car and, because no record exists of the 500th, ergo the last RS500 known to have rolled off the Genk production line in Belgium. "

Does this invalidate the cars homologation or were Ford allowed to count prototype and/or pre-production cars towards the requirement for 500 road cars? Could this mean that at least some of the RS500's race and series victorys are technically invalid due to not meeting homologation requirements?

Not that it bothers me (particularly this far down the line), it wouldn't be the first or last car to achieve homologation by dubious means, and it would be far from the worst offender but it's kind of interesting anyway... :-)

Read on a bit..."Last known built car, number 500 has not been seen or documented since 1988, and is believed lost for good." - this isn't to say it isn't still in a private collection somewhere (possibly outside the UK) and I'd want definitive proof that 500 had been completely destroyed before parting with anywhere near £65k if that's the main reason for its value. Dream land for a car like this.

[Ali_T]

bigbadbikercats said:

"...this is the 499th car and, because no record exists of the 500th, ergo the last RS500 known to have rolled off the Genk production line in Belgium. "

Does this invalidate the cars homologation or were Ford allowed to count prototype and/or pre-production cars towards the requirement for 500 road cars? Could this mean that at least some of the RS500's race and series victorys are technically invalid due to not meeting homologation requirements?

Not that it bothers me (particularly this far down the line), it wouldn't be the first or last car to achieve homologation by dubious means, and it would be far from the worst offender but it's kind of interesting anyway... :-)

At least they built 499....unlike Lancia and their genius tactic of building half the production, showing it to the FIA, getting them pissed at lunch while workers move the same cars to another car park and then counting them again.

As for the price, if it was delivery mileage and never seen a road, it would be worth it. But it's still a used car and you can still get plenty of stone chips and parking dings in 23000 miles.

[The Leaper]

I followed an RS500 the other day on the A25 near Tatsfield. It was not in pristine condition, but it was good to see the old timer actually being used!

I never understand why the remaining cars out of the original 500 built fetch so much. Supply and demand? More money than sense? Coswoth anorak? I'd spend my £65000 on something more exotic, I think.

R.

[hairykrishna]

Nobody has genuinely offered £62k for that.

[mwstewart]

The price does seems crazy to me, as at the end of the day they aren't that different to the 'regular' version that is worth considerably less. They're not exactly a pretty car nor a very competent one either, and the Sierra Cosworth always screamed 'chav' far more than the Sapphire or the Escort.

If I was looking for a Ford Cosworth it would be the Escort version.

[Steff]

suffolk009 said:

Or, buy about 65,000 Mk1 MX-5s.

You might be a touch optimistic in picking up one MX-5 for £1...

[Kev T]

Hard to believe that my new ST has 23 more horses under the bonnet than one of my all time fantasy cars!

[Luca Brasi]

How much? Even when you're a massive fan, that's silly money.

[ndj]

dasvolk said:

I suspect the price may have more to do with his desire *not* to sell the car - one of these types shared with me once that he had it up for sale for *years* just so he could tell his wife he was trying to sell it.

Sounds like a plan! Wife keeps nagging my to sell the M3. Advertise it for £80K (she has no idea on price, nor will try to find the advert). Sorted!

[Porkie]

GranCab said:

It's been for sale for a while now - and I think you have summed up why ...

However this RS looks far more realistically priced ;

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

LESS realistically priced!!!!! because its a regular Sierra 3dr, not the last known RS500.



Back to the original car in the post. of course it seems like a lot of money for an old Sierra.... but it will go for that much to a collector and it will go up in value as well IMHO.

[Mr Gearchange]

It is of course, a lovely thing.
But 65K is insane money - especially when 5k less buys you this bit of V12 manual gearboxed lovliness.

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

I appreciate it's rarity and status - but with 65K to burn I know where my money would be going..

[Gooby]

MrTappets said:

I was mentally picturing 20-25k. Shows how much I know about the value of an old Sierra, low miles or not.

I was thinking £2k....

Or is that what it is worth to me...

[uncinquesei]

I'm pretty sure that car belonged to the previous owner of my old mk1 RS2000. He was a solicitor in Swansea who had the RS2000 from new in 1974 until I bought it. He sold the escort to buy the RS500. Still had the Evans Halshaw stickers in the window and was completely original when i bought it, down to the steel wheels and no stripes. Looks like he kept the RS500 the same way...

[OllieC]

The Crack Fox said:

£65k ?! When the story mentioned 30 others in the same spec and colour were made ? How are any of these worth more than £10k ? Can a Ford fan explain to an ignoramus like me, please ?

all of them, by some margin, unless they are wrecks.

why ? beats me, but its the market value

Love Sierra Cosworths by the way

[Porkie]

Mr Gearchange said:

It is of course, a lovely thing.
But 65K is insane money - especially when 5k less buys you this bit of V12 manual gearboxed lovliness.

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

I appreciate it's rarity and status - but with 65K to burn I know where my money would be going..

but thats you....

IMHO the person that will pay £65k for this Sierra... and someone WILL, will probably have a new Ferrari or a few other exotic cars etc etc. Its going to a car collector. Its not gonna end up as an everyday driver or sole weekend toy!

I know the seller. Nice guy and very much not in dreamland

[7DWM]

If I really had to blow silly money on an old ford it would be this. Or is it just me?
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

[///Mike]

Like anything its worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

If he lists it long enough he may stumble across a multi millionaire Cosworth fan that would pay that price. Do I personally think its worth it, hell no.

[Red 4]

The Crack Fox said:

£65k ?! When the story mentioned 30 others in the same spec and colour were made ? How are any of these worth more than £10k ? Can a Ford fan explain to an ignoramus like me, please ?

You won't find a decent standard 3 door Cosworth for £10k. Good ones are upwards of £15k

RS 500's are £30k plus for a decent car.