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loose cannon

2,627 posts

127 months

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Amazing how vauxhall managed it with a wobbly Astra gte cavalier gsi
Vectra and pre btcc with vivas and magnums,
Alfa with a 155
Chevrolet with the cruze
Seat with a diesel Leon,
Etc etc etc
Sierra cosworth great car by all means
But it is what it is ;0)

s m

10,439 posts

89 months

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630bhp said:
s m said:
630bhp said:
s m said:
630bhp said:
s m said:
630bhp said:
loose cannon said:
Lol so a cossie isn't just an old sierra with an old pinto used for years and years with a 16v head plonked on it
And some tatty kit bolted on the outside,
I like cossies but you have just summed up the focus rs in exactly the same fashion as to what a sierra cosworth is,
They are both production cars a sierra cosworth is no more trick than a focus rs is it really ? The only difference is which wheels are driven, there both family cars with a bit of oomph
Spot on.....finally someone with some sense on here!
All these type of cars are based on humdrum kit- majority of which are sub 1k cars now - see old E30s, Merc 190s, Sierras, Deltas, Audi Coupes etc
Yes but BMW E30s and Merc 190s were quality cars to start with....while the Ford Sierra was just crap.
Even more amazing how Ford transformed it into a BTCC winner with a body kit and 16valve head .......
Amazing what spending stloads of money can do! rolleyes
Same as many factory teams and Motorsport departments rolleyes
Agreed....but at the end of the day it is still just an old Ford Sierra hurl
True, same as an E30 M3 is just an old BM, an Integrale is just an old Delta etc etc.......

s m

10,439 posts

89 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
loose cannon said:
Amazing how vauxhall managed it with a wobbly Astra gte cavalier gsi
Vectra and pre btcc with vivas and magnums,
Alfa with a 155
Chevrolet with the cruze
Seat with a diesel Leon,
Etc etc etc
Sierra cosworth great car by all means
But it is what it is ;0)
Exactly, many of them are based on humdrum cars

loose cannon

2,627 posts

127 months

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Well done you have finally cracked it sm
;0)
The price on any of these types of car depend solely on nostalgia and how deep your pocket is, they all have appeal some more to others,
Would I pay £65k for a sierra no chance,
Ask me again when I have 40 million in the bank I'm sure I might possibly do something stupid and purchase 1,
;0)

Edited by loose cannon on Thursday 4th October 19:31

Roop

5,993 posts

170 months

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loose cannon said:
Baryonyx said:
It's about so much more than numbers though, and you just don't seem to get that. It's the sort of thing that makes a real petrolhead dream of a Lancia Delta Integrale, despite knowing that a hot Mini Cooper would trouble it in standard tune. Same here, the Sierra Cosworth is awesome. The mk2 Focus RS is just a Focus with some questionable bodykit, a mildly interesting blown 5 and the Revoknuckle bit. It's nothing special; it's not a Cosworth.
Lol so a cossie isn't just an old sierra with an old pinto used for years and years with a 16v head plonked on it
And some tatty kit bolted on the outside,
I like cossies but you have just summed up the focus rs in exactly the same fashion as to what a sierra cosworth is,
They are both production cars a sierra cosworth is no more trick than a focus rs is it really ? The only difference is which wheels are driven, there both family cars with a bit of oomph
Definitely not trick at all. Very crude in fact, much more so than its rival the E30 M3 which was beautifully engineered.
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s m

10,439 posts

89 months

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loose cannon said:
Well done you have finally cracked it ;0)
They were all trying to 'halo' ordinary cars

blade7

4,938 posts

102 months

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Red 4 said:
heretheygo said:
this is for sale locally.
could find out how much if anyone is interested... neat private plate.



-Ford Focus RS500
-Only 500 in the world (this model 478/500)
-7000KM
Ford marketing at its finest
And at it's lowest were the front wheel drive Escort Mexico and RS2000 hurl.

s m

10,439 posts

89 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
loose cannon said:
Well done you have finally cracked it sm
;0)
The price on any of these types of car depend solely on nostalgia and how deep your pocket is, they all have appeal some more to others,
Would I pay £65k for a sierra no chance,
Ask me again when I have 40 million in the bank I'm sure I might possibly do something stupid and purchase 1,
;0)

Edited by loose cannon on Thursday 4th October 19:31
Would you pay 85k for an Integrale? Would you pay 100k for an E30 M3?

Personally I dont know ...... You might, you might not.

When we have £40 million in the bank we might do like you say. I'd probably have one of each, way before I bought a Veyron. Up till then, I guess neither of us will be buying any cars like this. Doubt they will drop to 3k because we don't though wink

As you say, they are what they are.....

loose cannon

2,627 posts

127 months

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And yes I would take them all over the veyron it's far to kings road for my tastes :0) have a pleasant evening

Roop

5,993 posts

170 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
s m said:
630bhp said:
s m said:
630bhp said:
s m said:
630bhp said:
s m said:
630bhp said:
loose cannon said:
Lol so a cossie isn't just an old sierra with an old pinto used for years and years with a 16v head plonked on it
And some tatty kit bolted on the outside,
I like cossies but you have just summed up the focus rs in exactly the same fashion as to what a sierra cosworth is,
They are both production cars a sierra cosworth is no more trick than a focus rs is it really ? The only difference is which wheels are driven, there both family cars with a bit of oomph
Spot on.....finally someone with some sense on here!
All these type of cars are based on humdrum kit- majority of which are sub 1k cars now - see old E30s, Merc 190s, Sierras, Deltas, Audi Coupes etc
Yes but BMW E30s and Merc 190s were quality cars to start with....while the Ford Sierra was just crap.
Even more amazing how Ford transformed it into a BTCC winner with a body kit and 16valve head .......
Amazing what spending stloads of money can do! rolleyes
Same as many factory teams and Motorsport departments rolleyes
Agreed....but at the end of the day it is still just an old Ford Sierra hurl
True, same as an E30 M3 is just an old BM, an Integrale is just an old Delta etc etc.......
hehe Forget it pal. You're either in the "I get it" camp or the "I don't get it" camp. No point trying to convert anyone...! Different people like different stuff...!!!

s m

10,439 posts

89 months

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loose cannon said:
And yes I would take them all over the veyron it's far to kings road for my tastes :0) have a pleasant evening
Yes, I wasn't accusing you of being a Veyron fan by the way, just illustrating what I'd rather buy.

Let us look forward to our £40 million and purchase plans........

loose cannon

2,627 posts

127 months

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I will drink to that m8ty
Bring on the lucky numbers ;0)

blade7

4,938 posts

102 months

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Roop said:
Yep. That's about right. Not sure about unofficial factory support. Certainly Rouse had this but he was very much running ARE his way.
Reminds me of a story about scrutineers asking a team principle/ driver why the compressor housing had a weld running around it, apparently it had cracked and the weld was a repair laugh alledgedly the housing had been cut open, the inside machined out and then it was welded back together.

Roop

5,993 posts

170 months

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s m said:
loose cannon said:
And yes I would take them all over the veyron it's far to kings road for my tastes :0) have a pleasant evening
Yes, I wasn't accusing you of being a Veyron fan by the way, just illustrating what I'd rather buy.

Let us look forward to our £40 million and purchase plans........
Veyrons are incredible pieces of engineering, all the same. The
quality of those things is astonishing. Sad that many buyers simply don't appreciate that.

s m

10,439 posts

89 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
Roop said:
s m said:
loose cannon said:
And yes I would take them all over the veyron it's far to kings road for my tastes :0) have a pleasant evening
Yes, I wasn't accusing you of being a Veyron fan by the way, just illustrating what I'd rather buy.

Let us look forward to our £40 million and purchase plans........
Veyrons are incredible pieces of engineering, all the same. The
quality of those things is astonishing. Sad that many buyers simply don't appreciate that.
I'm sure they are great - would be the shoddily thrown together F40 every day of the week for me though smile

Roop

5,993 posts

170 months

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blade7 said:
Roop said:
Yep. That's about right. Not sure about unofficial factory support. Certainly Rouse had this but he was very much running ARE his way.
Reminds me of a story about scrutineers asking a team principle/ driver why the compressor housing had a weld running around it, apparently it had cracked and the weld was a repair laugh alledgedly the housing had been cut open, the inside machined out and then it was welded back together.
Rule number one when looking at a supposedly straight, winning racing car: Its bent...!

Roop

5,993 posts

170 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
s m said:
Roop said:
s m said:
loose cannon said:
And yes I would take them all over the veyron it's far to kings road for my tastes :0) have a pleasant evening
Yes, I wasn't accusing you of being a Veyron fan by the way, just illustrating what I'd rather buy.

Let us look forward to our £40 million and purchase plans........
Veyrons are incredible pieces of engineering, all the same. The
quality of those things is astonishing. Sad that many buyers simply don't appreciate that.
I'm sure they are great - would be the shoddily thrown together F40 every day of the week for me though smile
Same here.

juddzey455

94 posts

40 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
s m said:
630bhp said:
s m said:
630bhp said:
loose cannon said:
Lol so a cossie isn't just an old sierra with an old pinto used for years and years with a 16v head plonked on it
And some tatty kit bolted on the outside,
I like cossies but you have just summed up the focus rs in exactly the same fashion as to what a sierra cosworth is,
They are both production cars a sierra cosworth is no more trick than a focus rs is it really ? The only difference is which wheels are driven, there both family cars with a bit of oomph
Spot on.....finally someone with some sense on here!
All these type of cars are based on humdrum kit- majority of which are sub 1k cars now - see old E30s, Merc 190s, Sierras, Deltas, Audi Coupes etc
Yes but BMW E30s and Merc 190s were quality cars to start with....while the Ford Sierra was just crap.
Even more amazing how Ford transformed it into a BTCC winner with a body kit and 16valve head .......
What would you rather a db4 or a db4 GT? ones a road car, once a race car for the road..bit of a difference in price?

blade7

4,938 posts

102 months

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Roop said:
Rule number one when looking at a supposedly straight, winning racing car: Its bent...!
It's only cheating if you get caught wink.

s m

10,439 posts

89 months

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juddzey455 said:
What would you rather a db4 or a db4 GT? ones a road car, once a race car for the road..bit of a difference in price?
I'd have to google them chap and get back to you on that one - they've never really cropped up on my radar.
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