RE: Ian Callum talks F-Type coupe

[sealtt]

This car should be a huge success. It looks fantastic, entry models are priced to remain aspirational but attainable for large segment of the population.

[gofasterrosssco]

HighwayStar said:

Raitzi said:

"entry V6 weighs almost 1,600kg. Whether that matters at all depends entirely on what it's like to drive. It SHOULD be brilliant. "

What????

His statement is correct... Most people who buy sports cars are worried about weight or handling to a degree, it's what it looks like and how it makes them feel. If they did cars like the SLK, SL, 6 series and XK wouldn't sell. I suspect in spite of the extra weight the F-Type will do the business. Of late Jaguar have great form in the area of chassis dynamics etc.

Just about every other 6-cylinder sports car / coupe available today / recently weighs 1,500kg+ so if this ones 1,580kg, whats all the fuss about? Many 'hot-hatches' are in the 1,400-1,500kg range now.. Lighter would of course be better, but I'm sometimes surprised at peoples surprise when a car comes out weighing more than the notional figures in their head... (e.g. GT86, Exige S)

Looks stunning BTW.. And while it may not be scalpel sharp, if the handling / ride, engine and performance come even close to that way it looks, it will sell pretty well IMO..

[RTH]

sealtt said:

This car should be a huge success. It looks fantastic, entry models are priced to remain aspirational but attainable for large segment of the population.

....".A large segment of the population" , what is that ? more than half ? a quarter ?

65M people in the country annual new car sales of 1.7M every year

So how many would you expect them to sell per year ? Bearing in mind this is a £58,000 2 seater and the best selling group of new car sales by a vast margin are in the Fiesta/Focus/Corsa/Astra segment i.e circa £15000

[[AJ]]

Sounds very promising.

Now, get it made! Give it a hardcore diet, manual gearbox and make it handle around a track and I'll have one!

[MycroftWard]

I don't think it's the prettiest car in a historical context but by modern standards it compares very well with the alternatives.

The coupe could be great if they can take some weight out and offer a stick shift (won't happen sadly ). An R variant has to be done.

[florian]

A 911 carbrio with PDK is 1.545 Kg (empty weight by EU standards).
So it´s not that far off. Also remember the the jag has a prop shaft and is wider than the Porsche.
http://www.porsche.com/germany/models/911/911-carr...

turbobungle said:

I've been thinking about the weight and it is a bit disappointing. My 10 year old E46 M3 Coupe weighs in at around 1550kg, it has a steel construction, a big boot, seats for 4 adults, airbags etc. etc. and (I believe) an iron blocked straight six up front. Yet is still weighs more than an all-aluminium 2 seater sportscar with (I assume) an all alloy V6. How does that work??

[Gorbyrev]

That picture at the top of the article is the best I've seen yet. Cracking looking thing. Now, will there be a manual transmission of offer?

[Triple7]

Coupe everytime, puurrrfect!

Sort the price out. It's too impractical as an everyday driver for me & too expensive just to use it at w/e's.

[DJRC]

RTH said:

sealtt said:

This car should be a huge success. It looks fantastic, entry models are priced to remain aspirational but attainable for large segment of the population.

....".A large segment of the population" , what is that ? more than half ? a quarter ?

65M people in the country annual new car sales of 1.7M every year

So how many would you expect them to sell per year ? Bearing in mind this is a £58,000 2 seater and the best selling group of new car sales by a vast margin are in the Fiesta/Focus/Corsa/Astra segment i.e circa £15000

The numbers that can afford a 911, i.e. plenty to build a profitable business case.

[MycroftWard]

Gorbyrev said:

Now, will there be a manual transmission of offer?

Jag haven't offered a manual option since about '97 for a premium offering (XK, XJ), I very much doubt they'll change their tune even for a more sporty offering. We'll get flappy paddles and that's it, hope to be proved wrong but can't see it.

[HeMightBeBanned]

I thought the coupe was a given, but this article suggests that it's not.

WTF??

[Beefmeister]

It was stated at a US Jag event that there will most likely be a manual gearbox offering, but only on more hardcore Coupe models.

The gearbox is also slated for a smaller Jag saloon as well - apparently there's an X-Type replacement coming...

You can see that a manual will be offered - why else use a completely new gearshifter instead of the rotary dial from all the other JLR models? So there's space in the centre console for a real gearstick...

[anonymous-user]

Err, do the people who are bleeting on about weight consider anything heavier than a caterham 7 "lardy" or something? It is a six cylinder luxury convertible/cabriolet that'll almost certainty be jam packed with cutting edge features and technology - I'm amazed it is so light at 1600 kilos.

[veevee]

Cyrus1971 said:

Far far far too expensive. Knock £20K off and I would start to look at a massively depretiating car like Jag builds. Until then I'll stick with M series and Porsches...

So far they've only made (mostly) big cars, which everyone knows depreciate quickly.

[dave stew]

The Crack Fox said:

Jaguar - PLEASE, for the love of God, give us drivers a manual gearbox !

I read recently (may have been the Sunday Times Paris Show piece) that Jaguar were rolling out a coupe F Type with three pedals...

[V6Alfisti]

If this doesn't sell, I will eat my hat! (Would be nice to have a lighter version as well )

This is what I have been wishing for since I saw the Alfa 2uettottanta.

[NGK210]

AyBee said:

y2blade said:

Bloodyhell, how pretty is that!!!

[carinaman]

In that colour from that angle without my glasses on reminds me of the 370Z.

[gl20]

Think I would need to see it in the flesh. Based on these pictures it doesn't excite me as much as it seems to other people on this thread.

[KevF]