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DonkeyApple

15,296 posts

49 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
HighwayStar said:
falconhoof said:
Why does stripping weight cost more? A manual option should be offered and the fact it isn't tells me the styling is aimed for younger people but the car will be bought by older buyers who want something that doesn't appear an old mans car, bit of a shame but at the same time it is an awesome looking machine and will be a high quality steer. I am 30 and as much as I love it I would go for something more raw and lightweight, subaru brz would be way more fun and half the price, totally different cars but this new jag is still aimed at the more mature driver which doesn't really bother me It just doesn't appeal to me and it should imo.
That's you... They'll be people of all ages buying this car, some who just like the looks. Not everyone who buys a boxster/cayman/Z4 is an enthusiast. The F-Type may turn out to be right up there with the best handling 2 seaters but if you don't want it don't buy it. No one cares either way. Mercedes don't seem to have any problem selling sporty jobs with autos.

Stripped out more focused cars always cost more than the standard offering. Do you think the just take out the AC, fit lighter seats etc, add more power and out it goes? There's development costs for suspension changes, chassis tuning/re calibration and who knows what...

Edited by HighwayStar on Thursday 4th October 20:56
TVR learned in the mide/late 90s as customers deserted in droves to buy the new mass produced roadsters such as the Boxster, SLK etc that the simple reality is that no one really wants a 'real' sports car. People want something that looks like a sports car and has the marketing image of a sports car but in reality is no less practical or luxurious as a good saloon.

For people who don't yet get this, the next time you go for a drive just count the number of 'real' sportscars you see. RS911s, Caterhams etc and compare that number to the number of conventional roadsters you see.

Jaguar don't want to build something that very clearly no commercially viable group want.

HighwayStar

628 posts

24 months

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Friday 5th October 2012 quote quote all
DonkeyApple said:
TVR learned in the mide/late 90s as customers deserted in droves to buy the new mass produced roadsters such as the Boxster, SLK etc that the simple reality is that no one really wants a 'real' sports car. People want something that looks like a sports car and has the marketing image of a sports car but in reality is no less practical or luxurious as a good saloon.

For people who don't yet get this, the next time you go for a drive just count the number of 'real' sportscars you see. RS911s, Caterhams etc and compare that number to the number of conventional roadsters you see.

Jaguar don't want to build something that very clearly no commercially viable group want.
People do want real sports cars. Whether they like if or not most would acknowledge that the Boxster/Cayman is a real sports renowned for real thrills and enjoyment. The things is there are probably relatively few owners who are actually have any idea what they have underneath them and what it's really capable of. Most will of course appreciate that yeah, it's a Porsche, it's German, well engineered and lovely. The few that really drive know what they have.
TVR's may have been a real sports cars but how long can a company survive when comedy build quality & breaking down is supposed to be part of the character. That's why in the mide/late 90s customers deserted TVR in droves to buy the new mass produced roadsters such as the Boxster, SLK etc.
Ironically anyone who wants a real drivers car isn't going to buy an SLK either. That's mostly bought because it's a Merc and the street theatre. So it's all down to whether the F-Type can provide true frills. If it can, a %age will be true enthusiast, if it doesn't it's be another car bought buy customers seduced by looks and simply think 'it's bloody fast' is having fun.

lardo

57 posts

61 months

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Friday 5th October 2012 quote quote all
spotted an F type yesterday at Strensham Services Northbound - 1 rather attractive blond (female obviously) driving a left hand drive on trade plates - with one rather old male passenger -dont know how relevant this post is other than its about the F type!!

MSTRBKR

5,539 posts

78 months

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Saturday 6th October 2012 quote quote all
lardo said:
spotted an F type yesterday at Strensham Services Northbound - 1 rather attractive blond (female obviously) driving a left hand drive on trade plates - with one rather old male passenger -dont know how relevant this post is other than its about the F type!!
Was it without camo?

RuntyMuz

5 posts

41 months

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Friday 12th October 2012 quote quote all
Absolutely stunning!

...but another bloody automatic!


NO THANKS.
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DJRC

21,351 posts

116 months

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Friday 12th October 2012 quote quote all
HighwayStar said:
DonkeyApple said:
TVR learned in the mide/late 90s as customers deserted in droves to buy the new mass produced roadsters such as the Boxster, SLK etc that the simple reality is that no one really wants a 'real' sports car. People want something that looks like a sports car and has the marketing image of a sports car but in reality is no less practical or luxurious as a good saloon.

For people who don't yet get this, the next time you go for a drive just count the number of 'real' sportscars you see. RS911s, Caterhams etc and compare that number to the number of conventional roadsters you see.

Jaguar don't want to build something that very clearly no commercially viable group want.
People do want real sports cars. Whether they like if or not most would acknowledge that the Boxster/Cayman is a real sports renowned for real thrills and enjoyment. The things is there are probably relatively few owners who are actually have any idea what they have underneath them and what it's really capable of. Most will of course appreciate that yeah, it's a Porsche, it's German, well engineered and lovely. The few that really drive know what they have.
TVR's may have been a real sports cars but how long can a company survive when comedy build quality & breaking down is supposed to be part of the character. That's why in the mide/late 90s customers deserted TVR in droves to buy the new mass produced roadsters such as the Boxster, SLK etc.
Ironically anyone who wants a real drivers car isn't going to buy an SLK either. That's mostly bought because it's a Merc and the street theatre. So it's all down to whether the F-Type can provide true frills. If it can, a %age will be true enthusiast, if it doesn't it's be another car bought buy customers seduced by looks and simply think 'it's bloody fast' is having fun.
I have no idea what your post is about because it contradicts itself at least 3 times when I can tell.
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