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GavinPearson

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5,469 posts

137 months

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This has made me livid......

Telegraph link

Why does the UK Government feel the need to tax people even more? The road fund licence is already skewed to penalise 'thirsty' cars, which are already penalised becuase the bulk of fuel cost is tax, and the more fuel you buy the more you pay in tax. The only result is going to be Britain's luxury car industry losing sales - in turn making them volume uncompetitive and therefore shedding jobs.

HustleRussell

6,435 posts

46 months

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'...proposed by the Liberal Democrats...'- It's just an attention grabbing headline.

marcosgt

7,584 posts

62 months

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Not sure I believe anything I read in the Torygraph that is attributed to the Liberals (after all, we all know they're only really in the coalition for the Tories to blame all their bad decisions on, come the next election - Shame Clegg didn't realise that...).

More worrying than a tax on new gas-guzzlers is the suggestion that they'll subsidise the purchase of Toyota Yaris.

Aside from the GT86, there should be a penalty for chosing a "White Good" as transport!

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ManOpener

2,851 posts

55 months

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Even the Liberal Democrats know better than to listen to the idiots in Centre Forum. They're basically, brake, but with lentils.

Captain Muppet

8,082 posts

151 months

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marcosgt said:
Aside from the GT86, there should be a penalty for chosing a "White Good" as transport!
I don't understand. Is "white good" a street term for Toyota?
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Hudson

1,460 posts

73 months

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As usual, the British public will just roll over and take it like a bh rather than doing anything about it.


BoostMonkey

500 posts

71 months

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Tim Leunig is purely London centric, he has spent most of his life in the big smoke & is/was a lecuture at LSE, Lib Dem campaigner for better public transport at the expense of private transport is his main topic along with housing benefit and social mobility.
He is using this poorly written paper as a bit of free publicity and try to appeal to the hard core of their supports who feel disenfranchised at the moment.

The paper is merely going to a thinktank discussion, I doubt it will go much further.
If it does, then we have fight on our hands.

OdramaSwimLaden

1,931 posts

55 months

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Those losers have already signed their own death warrants; who cares.

It reminds me of the pro-£25 a day London Congestion Charge people on the streets. One of them was asked why she was there and she came out with the usual bks about saving the planet and large engined cars were killing it.

She was asked if she drove and confirmed her car was a 2.2 litre something and was then told it would be hit with the £25 charge. Her relpy was "it can't be, it's not a gas guzzler". Once convinced, and still shocked she said "I thought it was only here for the gas guzzlers; how am I going to get to work everyday? I can't afford £25 a day!!"

Most of these morons are so pie in the sky; again, who cares!

k-ink

6,085 posts

65 months

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Buy used and avoid it. Simple.

otolith

26,126 posts

90 months

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The big hikes we got in VED for higher emission cars were originally a policy mooted by the Liberal Democrats when they weren't even sharing power. They are the principal anti-motorist party in the HoC.

Twincam16

27,646 posts

144 months

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Hang on a sec.

So the idea is to 'punish' cars they consider 'gas-guzzlers' (a term coined in Fifties America to describe single-figure mpg land-yachts) and reduce the price of cars they consider 'green'.

Right - so under this policy a 1.25-litre Ford Fiesta's price will go up.

Which means that by their reasoning a 1.25-litre engine is in the same profligate spirit as a Jensen Interceptor.

What planet do these people live on?

otolith

26,126 posts

90 months

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Twincam16 said:
What planet do these people live on?
Planet London.

RDMcG

8,785 posts

93 months

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Heavy enforcement,cameras everywhere,lower and lower speed limits,enraged motorists if they are passed, and now a potential penalty for just buying the damn sports car. What happened to driving being fun?

Mr2Mike

12,338 posts

141 months

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Torygraph said:
Mr Leunig said: "More efficient cars save motorists money and reduce global warming. What's not to like?"
Is this tt an American?

"What's not to like", Tim, is that utter s such as yourself are being paid a lot of money to make retarded proposals to screw even more money out of the public on the pretense that you are saving the environment.

g3org3y

9,247 posts

77 months

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HustleRussell said:
'...proposed by the Liberal Democrats...'- It's just an attention grabbing headline.
I hope! However, way things are going of late I wouldn't be surprised if this gets introduced in the near future.

Pothole

20,260 posts

168 months

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BoostMonkey said:
Tim Leunig is purely London centric, he has spent most of his life in the big smoke & is/was a lecuture at LSE, Lib Dem campaigner for better public transport at the expense of private transport is his main topic along with housing benefit and social mobility.
He is using this poorly written paper as a bit of free publicity and try to appeal to the hard core of their supports who feel disenfranchised at the moment.

The paper is merely going to a thinktank discussion, I doubt it will go much further.
If it does, then we have fight on our hands.
He's not popular up North:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/loca...

AC43

2,928 posts

94 months

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k-ink said:
Buy used and avoid it. Simple.
Buy even cheaper used V8's and avoid it. Simple.

Changedmyname

10,440 posts

67 months

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AC43 said:
Buy even cheaper used V8's and avoid it. Simple.
But someone somewhere will have to buy it in the first place so they become second,and that poor sod will lose a hell of a lot.

Twincam16

27,646 posts

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Mr2Mike said:
Torygraph said:
Mr Leunig said: "More efficient cars save motorists money and reduce global warming. What's not to like?"
Is this tt an American?

"What's not to like", Tim, is that utter s such as yourself are being paid a lot of money to make retarded proposals to screw even more money out of the public on the pretense that you are saving the environment.
Typical London-centric attitude too. The one where there's a public transport alternative to nearly every journey, pretty affluent people can go through their lives without really feeling the need to own a car, and 'motoring' consists of sitting in a traffic jam for several hours, being passed by bikes.

Problem with London urbanites is that the transport they rely upon can only really take them to other city and town centres, so as far as they're concerned, the rest of the country is just an endless extension of London.

All I can be thankful for is that no-one will vote for them at the next election, UKIP will take their place as the third party, this will force the Tories towards the Right to steal the vote back, Miliband (if he has any sense) will ensure Balls meets with an unfortunate gardening accident and Chuka Umuna replaces him as chancellor, and balance will be restored to the system within the course of another Parliamentary term (a term which, due to such narrow majorities, no-one will actually get any laws passed anyway).

oyster

6,649 posts

134 months

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k-ink said:
Buy used and avoid it. Simple.
If new cars become a lot more expensive, less of them will be sold. If there are less news cars bought then they'll be less used cars in years to come. Have a guess what will happen to the prices of used cars?
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