So, is your car fast?
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I haven't read all the pages so apologies if this has been covered but what can feel quick can some become the norm. So passengers tend to think wow that is very quick but you as the driver are used to it.
M3 E90 - adequate to fast. Sometimes I think wow thats quick but other times a bit more would be cool. I do remember when I got it thinking it was proper quick though.
M3 E90 - adequate to fast. Sometimes I think wow thats quick but other times a bit more would be cool. I do remember when I got it thinking it was proper quick though.
My MX5 is certainly not fast. But the average speed is probably faster than most other cars on the road!
Having run a 987 Boxster S and a Mustang GT in recent years I find I get more enjoyment from pushing the limits of the MX5 than I did accelerating quickly in either of those. Keeping a car on the boil is much more engaging for me.
Having run a 987 Boxster S and a Mustang GT in recent years I find I get more enjoyment from pushing the limits of the MX5 than I did accelerating quickly in either of those. Keeping a car on the boil is much more engaging for me.
Hitch78 said:
Keeping a car on the boil is much more engaging for me.
Don't you find that tiresome after a while though? I get what you are saying in a weekend blast kinda situation but day to day i want effortless overtaking and no need to drop 3 gears for a useful bit of torque.its 3/4 the reason i sold the Type-R.
Mann i think im lazy..
Hitch78 said:
My MX5 is certainly not fast. But the average speed is probably faster than most other cars on the road!
Having run a 987 Boxster S and a Mustang GT in recent years I find I get more enjoyment from pushing the limits of the MX5 than I did accelerating quickly in either of those. Keeping a car on the boil is much more engaging for me.
Along similar lines I find straight line speed pretty boring. In a decent luxobarge the experience is substantially anaesthetised.Having run a 987 Boxster S and a Mustang GT in recent years I find I get more enjoyment from pushing the limits of the MX5 than I did accelerating quickly in either of those. Keeping a car on the boil is much more engaging for me.
I much prefer a light reasonably powerful car on the twisties.
BigBen said:
There have been a number of very odd responses to this thread. I am just waiting for someone to come along with 'my Bugatti Veyron is not that fast' just so they can fit in with all the other posts from people with fast cars saying they are slow!
I guess it's because it's all relative.My car with 170bhp/ton is faster than the vast majority of cars driven by my friends. But then again that's because they don't care much about cars and drive various 2.0 tdi's, MPV's and mum trucks.
On PH, however, there is a very different demographic where 200bhp/ton doesn't really cut it and you need to get past 300bhp/ton to be considered quick (I mean the figure not the person BTW). And even then the arms race quickly kicks in and you get cars with a vastly better power to weight ratio.
So, in summary, 170 bhp/ton probably puts me in the top 10% or ever 5% of road users but in that last 5% there is a massive way to go and many of those folks post here.
just found this > http://www.autosnout.com/Cars-Bhp-Per-Ton-List.php
not sure how accurate it is but makes for some pretty interesting reading
not sure how accurate it is but makes for some pretty interesting reading
I think so, it's around 250bhp/tonne despite being a bit of a porker, plus it's noisy and squats down a lot when you floor it, so it does feel pretty violent. There's also the joy of the 'warp drive' sensation that 3rd gives, as you can come off a roundabout going fairly slowly, floor it in third, and it just accelerates faster and faster as the noise builds. Guaranteed to unsettle an unsuspecting passenger 
I wouldn't trust passenger accounts either, I've let my GF drive it once, and told her to basically progressively go to full throttle in 2nd from low revs, and it was a damn site scarier than when I'm driving. Felt like it just wasn't going to stop gathering speed.
The GTV V6 is fairly quick, although compared to the last few years of 250bhp+ hot hatches, it's pretty standard.
The Clio categorically does not accelerate. At all. It gets a bit noisier, but as far as I can discern, nothing else really happens.
I wouldn't trust passenger accounts either, I've let my GF drive it once, and told her to basically progressively go to full throttle in 2nd from low revs, and it was a damn site scarier than when I'm driving. Felt like it just wasn't going to stop gathering speed.
The GTV V6 is fairly quick, although compared to the last few years of 250bhp+ hot hatches, it's pretty standard.
The Clio categorically does not accelerate. At all. It gets a bit noisier, but as far as I can discern, nothing else really happens.
Pixelpeep said:
lol i can see this becoming a sword measuring contest.
Shall we start an official PH league table with our 'position' under our usernames ?
Well I think we'd need two versions - one which counts performance at any price (the Man City version) and the financial fair play version.Shall we start an official PH league table with our 'position' under our usernames ?
On the latter you divide the BHP/Tonne figure by the trade-in value of your car and multiply by 100.
Assuming the trade in value of mine is £7k I get a FFP number of 2.5. Enough to get into the Championship play offs, maybe.
(cue someone with a £1k supercharged Westfield to blow that theory out of the water)
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