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FWDRacer

3,208 posts

108 months

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DaveH23 said:
I refer you back to clarksons comment about TVR with no airbags or ABS.... Dont Crash it.
I refer you back to it's intended usage. Sometimes it isn't your fault and in racing accidents happen. Clever b0llocks.

Furyblade_Lee

3,350 posts

108 months

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That will be savage. Only a few more bhp than the CSR 260 but the torque will be a monstorous improvement. Mid range will be insane! I honestly feel though unless they put a few driving / traction aids it will be too much for the road and they will have to be careful if they sanction an official roadgoing version. Someone will put one through IVA independently though I am sure. Some friends have kitcars / 7's with 3-400bhp and you would not want joe public riding round in those. You need to be a) a mentalist and b) have a fair degree of driving talent and restraint, or c), they will have a huge accident.

dod

715 posts

144 months

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We NEED a video of this little monster in action...please!

HustleRussell

6,286 posts

44 months

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DaveH23 said:
FWDRacer said:
My only worry is that whilst the car gets "lairyer", the cage tubes don't get any thicker...
I refer you back to clarksons comment about TVR with no airbags or ABS.... Dont Crash it.
I've seen lots of racing Caterhams crashed HARD, they're surprizingly stiff. This doesn't necessarily make them 'safe', of course, but in my opinion the strength of the chassis tubes isn't the problem- it's the whole construction method of the car. If they hit something solid they decelerate a little bit too well.

ewenm

27,006 posts

129 months

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FWDRacer said:
I refer you back to it's intended usage. Sometimes it isn't your fault and in racing accidents happen. Clever b0llocks.
Is the racing going to involve much higher speeds though? Sure they'll get to the race pace quicker, but are the current R500 series power-limited or grip-limited? I'd imagine the R500 races aren't flat out round every bend and rarely hit vmax on the straights, so they are probably limited by grip rather than power.

If the race pace doesn't increase much (despite the acceleration being stronger), does the rollcage need to be any more substantial?
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dapearson

1,892 posts

108 months

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Will somebody please, PLEASE sponsor me so that i can race one of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dan Trent

Attendee

957 posts

52 months

PH Editor Bloke

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Further pricing update: upgrade package to update your R300 racer to R600 spec will be 'from' £15,995 including VAT.

Cheers,

Dan

MagicalTrevor

5,342 posts

113 months

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dod said:
We NEED a video of this little monster in action...please!
shout Staff call for Mr Harris. Mr Harris, there is a chap from Caterham here to see you he says he's fitted it with lights and a 'plate and he'll see you in Wales.

jackh707

1,656 posts

40 months

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£45k+ is a bit steep when you can get a perfectly good caterham for 10-12k and drop in your own engine of choice and have serious power, good suspension wheels and tyres for 15k all in and similar power outputs for under 20k.

That's without even looking at westfields etc.

For it's own race series fair enough.

smartypants

21,671 posts

53 months

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thinfourth2 said:
You can always tell those that have never owned a caterham

They want the wet weather gear

Caterham owners normally realise a hat is far more sensible, lighter, cheaper and crucially dryer
I'm a wuss - full face crash helmet for me (no windscreen though)


Chrisw666

22,654 posts

83 months

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jackh707 said:
£45k+ is a bit steep when you can get a perfectly good caterham for 10-12k and drop in your own engine of choice and have serious power, good suspension wheels and tyres for 15k all in and similar power outputs for under 20k.
banghead

Catherham must be pissed off they can't just keep selling second hand cars with people like you in the world.

smartypants

21,671 posts

53 months

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jackh707 said:
£45k+ is a bit steep when you can get a perfectly good caterham for 10-12k and drop in your own engine of choice and have serious power, good suspension wheels and tyres for 15k all in and similar power outputs for under 20k.

That's without even looking at westfields etc.

For it's own race series fair enough.
And don't forget you could strap a rocket onto the back of a pedal car.



Edited by smartypants on Thursday 4th October 10:34

HustleRussell

6,286 posts

44 months

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jackh707 said:
£45k+ is a bit steep when you can get a perfectly good caterham for 10-12k and drop in your own engine of choice and have serious power, good suspension wheels and tyres for 15k all in and similar power outputs for under 20k.

That's without even looking at westfields etc.

For it's own race series fair enough.
yes, because the chassis, gearbox, differential, geometry, assembly hardware, suspension components, electronic system, ECU, bodywork etc is exactly the same between an £10-12k Caterham and a spanking new R600... rolleyes

JamesHayward

535 posts

48 months

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I can't imagine it would take too much to get this on the road. Probably just needs lights and a few sharp edges covered and it will go through an IVA no problem. I reckon you could do that for less than £2k if you weren't picky on lights etc. Compare that to an R500....

The Wookie

Attendee

9,966 posts

112 months

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My old C400 race car was fairly terrifying, this has surely got to be dangerous!!

David87

3,152 posts

96 months

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rofl This car will be mental. I need a road-going version!

smartypants

21,671 posts

53 months

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The Wookie said:
My old C400 race car was fairly terrifying, this has surely got to be dangerous!!
The R400 we track is well above my ability... I don't think I'm brave enough to entertain the R600 smile

OT: I have paddock passes for Silverstone on Saturday - best of luck for the weekend!

RacerMike

982 posts

95 months

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It's here at Rockingham testing with us today.....and my God does it look quick!

footsoldier

669 posts

76 months

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ewenm said:
Is the racing going to involve much higher speeds though? Sure they'll get to the race pace quicker, but are the current R500 series power-limited or grip-limited? I'd imagine the R500 races aren't flat out round every bend and rarely hit vmax on the straights, so they are probably limited by grip rather than power.

If the race pace doesn't increase much (despite the acceleration being stronger), does the rollcage need to be any more substantial?
The current R300s are limited by gearing, which is fixed. Max out at 127mph and will be on limiter at most circuits. Somewhere like Snetterton, in a tow, you could be bouncing off limiter for hundreds of metres.

So, all depends how it's geared as to how much faster top-end will be.

The Wookie

Attendee

9,966 posts

112 months

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smartypants said:
OT: I have paddock passes for Silverstone on Saturday - best of luck for the weekend!
Cheers thumbup

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