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SmartVenom

340 posts

56 months

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My 182 was an amazing car and every other renaultsport I have been in has been impressive (although i'd argue not as impressive as the 182 but i'm biased) so I guess it is right to think that the lastest will again impress. However, all the talk is certainly of a softer less focused car and this does worry me.

If renaultsport are made to produce a softer more saleable car (I can't believe they are doing it willingly) then I hope they are allowed to do a limited run hardcore cup car that meets what the original enthusiasts found so tantalising.

rwindmill

112 posts

45 months

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So, we have confirmation from the horse's mouth. The new RS clio is heavier than the current RS Clio. And the Current RS Clio was 100kg heavier than the phase 2 Clio 172 cup.

Effectively, they have brought out an over-weight, automatic five-door shopping trolley, that behaves like a TDi.

Why not just buy the TDi version of the new clio, get the 100kg weight saving that they claim it has over the current standard model, and save your self some money on insurance and petrol costs.

Goodbye decent RS clio, we can say 'We knew you when..........'

Triumph Man

3,119 posts

55 months

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Everything's going ste. 4 cylinder BMWs, Overweight hatchbacks, and an automatic Clio RS.

TaylotS2K

763 posts

94 months

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Looks like Sloth from The Goonies.

Captain Muppet

8,100 posts

152 months

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FraserLFA said:
domlebo70 said:
Oh dear RenaultSport. Is it only Porsche left now?
Who do manual gearboxes?

Ford, Subaru, Mitsubishi, Lamborghini, Nissan still do 'em in some cars.

I'd always prefer a manual, but there are a still some manufacturers who make them.
And Lotus.
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LuS1fer

31,784 posts

132 months

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Their only lucky trump card is that I was behind a 208 the other day and couldn't believe how much worse it looked than the 207 with its stupid stripey lights.

doogz

23,418 posts

74 months

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Toyota too. Plenty of manufacturers still do.

chillbill

17 posts

27 months

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"One of the key goals for the new car was to get back to the core market, to make the car more versatile - more so than the current RS model," he says. "The main reason to abandon the 2.0 engine was to give more torque at earlier rpms."
This says it all to me. They're sacrificing the raw essence of the previous Clio RS's so as to appeal to a wider range of customers, selling more cars and making more profit. It's all good news if you're a Renault shareholder but bad if you're a die-hard petrolhead.

Still, I wouldn't write the new model off completely, not least until someone has revved the nuts off the thing IRL.

CB, Clio 172 driver

Gaz.

50,410 posts

138 months

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""One of the key goals for the new car was to get back to the core market, to make the car more versatile "

I remember that speech from a Honda PR guy when telling us that Honda were ditching the boy racer crowd for yummy-mummies doing the school run in the morning, going to work in a power suit and then going to boxercise in the evening, complete with a film of a day in the life of the then new Civic Type R owner demographic they were chasing.

May be why Honda sold 20,000 units of the older car and just half that amount for its replacement.

dontdobends

314 posts

101 months

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Quite like it,don't knock it till ya try it.i'd be happy with the dsg its about time they banged on incool

Chicane-UK

3,606 posts

72 months

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Not that I wish to be the prat who goes on about reliability of French cars (for the record the two I owned were very reliable so I can't say that was my experience of them!) but does anyone know more about the DSG style box they've developed for this? Is it in house? Is it going to be shared with any other manufacturers? I can't help but be concerned that if this is an all new box making it's debut in the Clio, I wouldn't want to be one of the first adopters! smile

dtrump

1,546 posts

78 months

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So it has more torque earlier meaning you dont have to change gear as much, and when you do you just click a button

oh my, that sounds fantastic, I am overwhelmed with excitment, cant wait rolleyes

Penneth

120 posts

68 months

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Chicane-UK said:
Not that I wish to be the prat who goes on about reliability of French cars (for the record the two I owned were very reliable so I can't say that was my experience of them!) but does anyone know more about the DSG style box they've developed for this? Is it in house? Is it going to be shared with any other manufacturers? I can't help but be concerned that if this is an all new box making it's debut in the Clio, I wouldn't want to be one of the first adopters! smile
Pretty sure it's been used in various Renault models for some time now.

g3org3y

9,474 posts

78 months

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Badge looks very big upfront!

crispyshark

760 posts

32 months

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‘It's a similar story with the switch to a dual-clutch paddleshift gearbox but, according to Barton, it's more involving too.’

Unless I have missed something, how is a flappy paddle gearbox ‘more involving’ than a manual??

‘Even with the extra doors "the chassis characteristics will be very similar," Barton assures, "although it'll be more comfortable." ‘

When were the Clio Sports meant to be ‘comfortable’?

Have Renault really done their market research on this? I’m beginning to wonder if they just stood outside a sainbury’s one working day and asked housewives what they would like to see in the new Clio Sport!

Madmatt74

273 posts

44 months

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Captain Muppet said:
FraserLFA said:
domlebo70 said:
Oh dear RenaultSport. Is it only Porsche left now?
Who do manual gearboxes?

Ford, Subaru, Mitsubishi, Lamborghini, Nissan still do 'em in some cars.

I'd always prefer a manual, but there are a still some manufacturers who make them.
And Lotus.
Could he mean NA performance cars with a manual box?
Most listed have Turbos.

German

197 posts

34 months

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All this stuff (Possility that the next GT3 is only DCT, fake noise M5 ect) and "Progress" like small capacity turbo engines, endless electronics and DCT boxes just makes me glad modern (ish) cars are so reliable.

I'll have something light, high reving and N/A with sod all electonics please....if its old and not as posh looking as the one the neighbours have so be it. Let them have their generic euro boxes, we can always buy used wink

Maggi112

20 posts

35 months

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Renaultsport has made the best of what the rules allow really. They HAD to do something about emissions. It's surely going to be the best of the new breed, and will no doubt handle fantastically

I still can't see what's wrong with it, other than people don't like change?

JohnGoodridge

320 posts

82 months

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The great thing about the RS Clio was that it was a real alternative to the Golf GTI; now the terrible thing about it is that it's a real alternative to the Golf GTI. wink

ikarl

1,687 posts

86 months

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Maggi112 said:
Renaultsport has made the best of what the rules allow really. They HAD to do something about emissions. It's surely going to be the best of the new breed, and will no doubt handle fantastically

I still can't see what's wrong with it, other than people don't like change?
Apart from the fact it looks absolutely disgusting?

Disgusting is a strong word and I know looks can be a subjective thing but can you really say this looks good from any angle?
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