RE: PH blog: a sniff of Bloodhound

RE: PH blog: a sniff of Bloodhound

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nickwilcock

1,522 posts

247 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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R500POP, Thrust SSC encountered signficant drag rise at supersonic speed due to tyre/surface drag. My impression being that the bow shock pulverised the the surface into a friable state ahead of the tyres. Hence SSC was effectively 'running across a ploughed field' and despite using the most powerful engines available, it never quite achieved its target design speed, although Andy successfully exceeded M1.0 by a comfortable margin.

Has the cause of the massive drag rise been identified and countered for Bloodhound? I spoke with Dog a while ago and he didn't know whether this had been achieved.

Massive thrust from the EJ and the rocket won't be sufficient if the surface again turns into mush. Maybe the South African surface has a higher CBR than had the Black Rock surface?

M3John

5,974 posts

219 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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R500POP said:
M3John said:
Great write up Chris.

Any thought of putting a PH sticker on the nose guys? wink
Got a few grand spare?
shout Haymarket

R500POP

8,777 posts

210 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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M3John said:
shout Haymarket
10 grand for a 100mm x 100mm on the side....

R500POP

8,777 posts

210 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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nickwilcock said:
R500POP, Thrust SSC encountered signficant drag rise at supersonic speed due to tyre/surface drag. My impression being that the bow shock pulverised the the surface into a friable state ahead of the tyres. Hence SSC was effectively 'running across a ploughed field' and despite using the most powerful engines available, it never quite achieved its target design speed, although Andy successfully exceeded M1.0 by a comfortable margin.

Has the cause of the massive drag rise been identified and countered for Bloodhound? I spoke with Dog a while ago and he didn't know whether this had been achieved.

Massive thrust from the EJ and the rocket won't be sufficient if the surface again turns into mush. Maybe the South African surface has a higher CBR than had the Black Rock surface?
That's correct, Thrust never reached it's full design speed due to mant factors, the desrt floor being one, but we are hoping the African desert will offer a far more stable surface to run on.

M3John

5,974 posts

219 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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R500POP said:
M3John said:
shout Haymarket
10 grand for a 100mm x 100mm on the side....
Ouch. That's a bit punchy. smile

lgomgf

237 posts

188 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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a F1 V8 for fuel pump.... that is something... i wish i could have that for my car...

R500POP

8,777 posts

210 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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M3John said:
Ouch. That's a bit punchy. smile
How many active PH'ers?.......

ceebmoj

1,898 posts

261 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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R500POP said:
M3John said:
Ouch. That's a bit punchy. smile
How many active PH'ers?.......
How much did we all raise for the air ambulance.

crofty1984

15,848 posts

204 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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wiggy001 said:
One of the most amazing things about this project is surely the tiny budget they are working to. That seems to be too small by a factor of 10 to a layman like me!

Think about the budgets F1 teams have. And these guys are using an F1 engine as a fuel pump. The cheap bit!

Was a pleasure to see some of this up close as Goodwood this year and last.

Absolutely incredible.
Give a British man a big enough shed and not quite enough money, and watch him perform miracles.

scubadude

2,618 posts

197 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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I watched the live feed online with my Dad yesterday, we followed the previous SSC project by email (back in the day), we've donated again for this project and stood together with fingers crossed.

Brings a swelling to your heart, tear to the eye and lump to the throat as another British project roundly thumps all competition. Not enough for Richard and Andy to take the Sound barrier and record, now before anyone else has even come close they want to put the barrier basically out of reach of anyone- absolutely stonking daring IMO.

You have to wonder when the goverment and industry can drop billions on the Olympics this project hasn't already been funded to 100% They did it before, I believe they will do it again- or make a spectacular attempt.

Watching that rocket I have to hand it to Andy for carrying on the commentary- he's got some balls to be sitting a few feet infront on that, when he lights it up he'll already be doing 300+mph IIRC.


(Am I the only one who is reminded of a Thunderbirds vehicle whenever I see one of Ron's LSR cars :-)

tercelgold

969 posts

157 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Epic, the fact it's manned makes it all the more incredible and much better to me.

on the same note Reaction Engines Ltd tested their SABRE air breathing rocket engine earlier this year. limited funding and British government apathy were overcome to allow the space race to hopefully continue.

Tankslider

833 posts

223 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Brilliant, Brilliant, Brilliant.

The fact there was a corps headquarters trying to exercise in tents half a mile away, who couldn't hear themselves think for ten seconds just tops it for me smile

Zad

12,698 posts

236 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Maybe a couple of grand for a tiny "Speed Matters" sticker? It always makes me smile when I see that on the Yorkshire Air Ambulance. I can't think of 2 occasions where it would be more appropriate!

UK952

763 posts

259 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Brilliant!

VictorMeldrew

8,293 posts

277 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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As a 1K club Gold member I am SO looking forward to next year/2014 and my invite to the record attempt in SA, and also immensely proud of this British enterprise. Anyone ever asks what it means to be British - this!

del 203

12,728 posts

249 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Outside Lloyds this morning...






biggrin

R500POP

8,777 posts

210 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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Just to give you guys an idea on the latest visible revisions.....

This is the size of the tailfin now, about 2x length & height of that one, working on the detail design at the moment.


del 203

12,728 posts

249 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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R500POP said:
Was it you there y'day ?

Mr E

21,614 posts

259 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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Adrian W said:
yep, they've got some of my money and my kids names will be on the tail fin
Wonderful idea. And done.

R500POP

8,777 posts

210 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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del 203 said:
Was it you there y'day ?
Nope, I was embedded in the design office.