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340600

553 posts

144 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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Blown2CV said:
daemon said:
Pan Pan said:
I could regularly achieve over 1000 miles of mixed motorway, and town driving, on a tankful, in my previous Passat 2.0 ltr bluemotion (if I brimmed the tank) But with the current one (a 1.6 Bluemotion) about 800 miles is the best I have ever seen.
The problem with the 1.6, is that it is `just' adequate for regular driving (it is a fairly big car, for a 1.6 litre engine in any case) but it is found wanting, in both performance, and fuel consumption, when there is the need to press on, or when I have a car full of passengers, and their luggage.
Interesting...

The 2.0TDI bluemotion was 110BHP, the 1.6TDI bluemotion is 105, so it shouldnt make that much of a difference.

I'd a 2.0TDI bluemotion and could get around 1000 miles to a tank.

I've a late 2012 Golf 1.6 TDI and have been averaging 66mpg over the last 11000 miles, filled brim to brim though theres normally only me in it and its long steady runs all the time.
current model bluemotion (as in, the spec level) is only available in a 1.6TDi with 110PS. There are a variety of other spec levels available with "bluemotion technology" which includes a 1.6TDi and a 2.0TDi, with the latter being 150PS. I know PS not quite the same as BHP but thought worth mentioning as i think your figures are out.
Actually I think it's your figures that are out.

The 1.6 TDI BlueMotion is 105 PS. The 2.0 TDI in the Passat is available with 140 or 177 PS.

The 2.0 TDI in the current Mk7 Golf is 150 PS so I expect that will become available in the Passat imminently.


SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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60 litre tank - 310 miles at best... ive done 150 at worst lol

stevesingo

4,858 posts

223 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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1000-8000rpm.

Am I doing this right?

CraigyMc

16,423 posts

237 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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stevesingo said:
1000-8000rpm.

Am I doing this right?
Given the bickering elsewhere, I'm willing to say yes. Honda?

V8 Bob

268 posts

126 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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800 - 850 keeping to 70 on a motorway run -Mondeo Econetic Estate


daemon

35,847 posts

198 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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Blown2CV said:
daemon said:
Pan Pan said:
I could regularly achieve over 1000 miles of mixed motorway, and town driving, on a tankful, in my previous Passat 2.0 ltr bluemotion (if I brimmed the tank) But with the current one (a 1.6 Bluemotion) about 800 miles is the best I have ever seen.
The problem with the 1.6, is that it is `just' adequate for regular driving (it is a fairly big car, for a 1.6 litre engine in any case) but it is found wanting, in both performance, and fuel consumption, when there is the need to press on, or when I have a car full of passengers, and their luggage.
Interesting...

The 2.0TDI bluemotion was 110BHP, the 1.6TDI bluemotion is 105, so it shouldnt make that much of a difference.

I'd a 2.0TDI bluemotion and could get around 1000 miles to a tank.

I've a late 2012 Golf 1.6 TDI and have been averaging 66mpg over the last 11000 miles, filled brim to brim though theres normally only me in it and its long steady runs all the time.
current model bluemotion (as in, the spec level) is only available in a 1.6TDi with 110PS. There are a variety of other spec levels available with "bluemotion technology" which includes a 1.6TDi and a 2.0TDi, with the latter being 150PS. I know PS not quite the same as BHP but thought worth mentioning as i think your figures are out.
No, my figures are correct. My Passat was a Bluemotion 2 2.0TDI 110BHP, registered Jan 2010. It was the very last of the 2.0TDI Bluemotions before they replaced it with the 1.6TDI 105BHP Bluemotion.

I stand corrected if the very latest Passat Bluemotions are 1.6 TDI 110BHP. My current Golf is a non Bluemotion 1.6 TDI 105BHP.

I'm using BHP there but it may be PS.


Edited by daemon on Wednesday 12th February 21:55

daemon

35,847 posts

198 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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340600 said:
Blown2CV said:
daemon said:
Pan Pan said:
I could regularly achieve over 1000 miles of mixed motorway, and town driving, on a tankful, in my previous Passat 2.0 ltr bluemotion (if I brimmed the tank) But with the current one (a 1.6 Bluemotion) about 800 miles is the best I have ever seen.
The problem with the 1.6, is that it is `just' adequate for regular driving (it is a fairly big car, for a 1.6 litre engine in any case) but it is found wanting, in both performance, and fuel consumption, when there is the need to press on, or when I have a car full of passengers, and their luggage.
Interesting...

The 2.0TDI bluemotion was 110BHP, the 1.6TDI bluemotion is 105, so it shouldnt make that much of a difference.

I'd a 2.0TDI bluemotion and could get around 1000 miles to a tank.

I've a late 2012 Golf 1.6 TDI and have been averaging 66mpg over the last 11000 miles, filled brim to brim though theres normally only me in it and its long steady runs all the time.
current model bluemotion (as in, the spec level) is only available in a 1.6TDi with 110PS. There are a variety of other spec levels available with "bluemotion technology" which includes a 1.6TDi and a 2.0TDi, with the latter being 150PS. I know PS not quite the same as BHP but thought worth mentioning as i think your figures are out.
Actually I think it's your figures that are out.

The 1.6 TDI BlueMotion is 105 PS. The 2.0 TDI in the Passat is available with 140 or 177 PS.

The 2.0 TDI in the current Mk7 Golf is 150 PS so I expect that will become available in the Passat imminently.
And just to clarify, the pure Bluemotion models went 1.9TDI, 2.0TDI then 1.6TDI.

cheddar

4,637 posts

175 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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VW Amarok

700 miles.

stevesingo

4,858 posts

223 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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CraigyMc said:
stevesingo said:
1000-8000rpm.

Am I doing this right?
Given the bickering elsewhere, I'm willing to say yes. Honda?
Good God man, no such thing.

E30 M3, not quite stock!

MethylatedSpirit

1,902 posts

137 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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350 miles for the bora.

Went on a skiing trip and was cursing the pathetic range all week.


£60 fills it to the top when the yellow light comes on...

Blown2CV

28,863 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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340600 said:
Blown2CV said:
daemon said:
Pan Pan said:
I could regularly achieve over 1000 miles of mixed motorway, and town driving, on a tankful, in my previous Passat 2.0 ltr bluemotion (if I brimmed the tank) But with the current one (a 1.6 Bluemotion) about 800 miles is the best I have ever seen.
The problem with the 1.6, is that it is `just' adequate for regular driving (it is a fairly big car, for a 1.6 litre engine in any case) but it is found wanting, in both performance, and fuel consumption, when there is the need to press on, or when I have a car full of passengers, and their luggage.
Interesting...

The 2.0TDI bluemotion was 110BHP, the 1.6TDI bluemotion is 105, so it shouldnt make that much of a difference.

I'd a 2.0TDI bluemotion and could get around 1000 miles to a tank.

I've a late 2012 Golf 1.6 TDI and have been averaging 66mpg over the last 11000 miles, filled brim to brim though theres normally only me in it and its long steady runs all the time.
current model bluemotion (as in, the spec level) is only available in a 1.6TDi with 110PS. There are a variety of other spec levels available with "bluemotion technology" which includes a 1.6TDi and a 2.0TDi, with the latter being 150PS. I know PS not quite the same as BHP but thought worth mentioning as i think your figures are out.
Actually I think it's your figures that are out.

The 1.6 TDI BlueMotion is 105 PS. The 2.0 TDI in the Passat is available with 140 or 177 PS.

The 2.0 TDI in the current Mk7 Golf is 150 PS so I expect that will become available in the Passat imminently.
well i verified the figures on VW website so they are accurate. The confusion may have arisen because I thought you were talking current model, which apparently isn't the case.

VW Golf 1.6TDi Bluemotion is 110PS
VW Golf 1.6TDi Bluemotion Technology SE is 105PS

both current models - it's VW that's being confusing by using the word 'Bluemotion' to both refer to a set of principles (the 'technology' thing) and separately a spec level. The former is used liberally, and sprinkled all over all sorts of models over VW portfolio. The latter is only used for one give variant within some models e.g. polo, golf, passat. I guess 'Bluemotion Technology' kind of means something like "inspired by Bluemotion" because it doesn't refer to the full economy geek-fest that the Bluemotion spec level is.

Pan Pan

1,116 posts

128 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Blown2CV said:
340600 said:
Blown2CV said:
daemon said:
Pan Pan said:
I could regularly achieve over 1000 miles of mixed motorway, and town driving, on a tankful, in my previous Passat 2.0 ltr bluemotion (if I brimmed the tank) But with the current one (a 1.6 Bluemotion) about 800 miles is the best I have ever seen.
The problem with the 1.6, is that it is `just' adequate for regular driving (it is a fairly big car, for a 1.6 litre engine in any case) but it is found wanting, in both performance, and fuel consumption, when there is the need to press on, or when I have a car full of passengers, and their luggage.
Interesting...

The 2.0TDI bluemotion was 110BHP, the 1.6TDI bluemotion is 105, so it shouldnt make that much of a difference.

I'd a 2.0TDI bluemotion and could get around 1000 miles to a tank.
I can only comment on what my current car is actually doing, compared to what was achieved with the previous Passat (over one hundred and twenty thousand miles) To be fair the current car has not got much mileage on it yet, so could still be a bit `tight' but currently there has been a large increase in fuel consumption (down from circa 1000 miles per tankful to around 800 at best)and there is for me at least, a marked decrease in performance over the previous 2.0 litre.
This is generally not noticed during normal chuntering around, but definitely noticeable when trying to press on, or when I have a car full of passengers and their gear. As Scotty once said "Ye canna cheat the laws of physics Jim" Any smaller engined car is going to have to work harder, to match the overall performance of a bigger engined car in the same (heavy) chassis.
















I've a late 2012 Golf 1.6 TDI and have been averaging 66mpg over the last 11000 miles, filled brim to brim though theres normally only me in it and its long steady runs all the time.
current model bluemotion (as in, the spec level) is only available in a 1.6TDi with 110PS. There are a variety of other spec levels available with "bluemotion technology" which includes a 1.6TDi and a 2.0TDi, with the latter being 150PS. I know PS not quite the same as BHP but thought worth mentioning as i think your figures are out.
Actually I think it's your figures that are out.

The 1.6 TDI BlueMotion is 105 PS. The 2.0 TDI in the Passat is available with 140 or 177 PS.

The 2.0 TDI in the current Mk7 Golf is 150 PS so I expect that will become available in the Passat imminently.
well i verified the figures on VW website so they are accurate. The confusion may have arisen because I thought you were talking current model, which apparently isn't the case.

VW Golf 1.6TDi Bluemotion is 110PS
VW Golf 1.6TDi Bluemotion Technology SE is 105PS

both current models - it's VW that's being confusing by using the word 'Bluemotion' to both refer to a set of principles (the 'technology' thing) and separately a spec level. The former is used liberally, and sprinkled all over all sorts of models over VW portfolio. The latter is only used for one give variant within some models e.g. polo, golf, passat. I guess 'Bluemotion Technology' kind of means something like "inspired by Bluemotion" because it doesn't refer to the full economy geek-fest that the Bluemotion spec level is.

daemon

35,847 posts

198 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Blown2CV said:
340600 said:
Blown2CV said:
daemon said:
Pan Pan said:
I could regularly achieve over 1000 miles of mixed motorway, and town driving, on a tankful, in my previous Passat 2.0 ltr bluemotion (if I brimmed the tank) But with the current one (a 1.6 Bluemotion) about 800 miles is the best I have ever seen.
The problem with the 1.6, is that it is `just' adequate for regular driving (it is a fairly big car, for a 1.6 litre engine in any case) but it is found wanting, in both performance, and fuel consumption, when there is the need to press on, or when I have a car full of passengers, and their luggage.
Interesting...

The 2.0TDI bluemotion was 110BHP, the 1.6TDI bluemotion is 105, so it shouldnt make that much of a difference.

I'd a 2.0TDI bluemotion and could get around 1000 miles to a tank.

I've a late 2012 Golf 1.6 TDI and have been averaging 66mpg over the last 11000 miles, filled brim to brim though theres normally only me in it and its long steady runs all the time.
current model bluemotion (as in, the spec level) is only available in a 1.6TDi with 110PS. There are a variety of other spec levels available with "bluemotion technology" which includes a 1.6TDi and a 2.0TDi, with the latter being 150PS. I know PS not quite the same as BHP but thought worth mentioning as i think your figures are out.
Actually I think it's your figures that are out.

The 1.6 TDI BlueMotion is 105 PS. The 2.0 TDI in the Passat is available with 140 or 177 PS.

The 2.0 TDI in the current Mk7 Golf is 150 PS so I expect that will become available in the Passat imminently.
well i verified the figures on VW website so they are accurate. The confusion may have arisen because I thought you were talking current model, which apparently isn't the case.

VW Golf 1.6TDi Bluemotion is 110PS
VW Golf 1.6TDi Bluemotion Technology SE is 105PS

both current models - it's VW that's being confusing by using the word 'Bluemotion' to both refer to a set of principles (the 'technology' thing) and separately a spec level. The former is used liberally, and sprinkled all over all sorts of models over VW portfolio. The latter is only used for one give variant within some models e.g. polo, golf, passat. I guess 'Bluemotion Technology' kind of means something like "inspired by Bluemotion" because it doesn't refer to the full economy geek-fest that the Bluemotion spec level is.
Your misinterpretation then - both Pan Pan and i were talking about the 2.0TDI Bluemotion - referred to in the past tense.



daemon

35,847 posts

198 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Pan Pan said:
I can only comment on what my current car is actually doing, compared to what was achieved with the previous Passat (over one hundred and twenty thousand miles) To be fair the current car has not got much mileage on it yet, so could still be a bit `tight' but currently there has been a large increase in fuel consumption (down from circa 1000 miles per tankful to around 800 at best)and there is for me at least, a marked decrease in performance over the previous 2.0 litre.

This is generally not noticed during normal chuntering around, but definitely noticeable when trying to press on, or when I have a car full of passengers and their gear. As Scotty once said "Ye canna cheat the laws of physics Jim" Any smaller engined car is going to have to work harder, to match the overall performance of a bigger engined car in the same (heavy) chassis.
Yes i agree - and it wasnt a criticism by the way - merely an observation of what i'm seeing. I thought the Passat 2.0TDI Bluemotion was a fantastic car.

Couldnt get a Golf Bluemotion in budget or i'd have had one of those this time. smile


JMGS4

8,740 posts

271 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Had an Audi 100 2.5TDI and did regularly 1000-1250km on a full 80l tank. Even drove from Edinburgh to Basel (1560km) once on 1 full tank, thanks to idiotically low GB and F speeds!!!

Pan Pan

1,116 posts

128 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Daemon - The Passat was not the most reliable car I ever had (in fact it was possibly the most unreliable) but for some reason I just liked it enough to get another one. Thats the thing with VW`s
on paper, they don't seem much different to most other cars, but there is something about them when used on an everyday basis that makes me kind of like them just that bit more.

daemon

35,847 posts

198 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Pan Pan said:
Daemon - The Passat was not the most reliable car I ever had (in fact it was possibly the most unreliable) but for some reason I just liked it enough to get another one. Thats the thing with VW`s
on paper, they don't seem much different to most other cars, but there is something about them when used on an everyday basis that makes me kind of like them just that bit more.
Yes i would agree. In fairness i only hand mine for about a year so it went before i might have otherwise been seeing problems.

When i got the passat i always sort of thought maybe i should have got a golf, so this time i got a golf, and now i'm thinking i should maybe have got a passat!

Mind you, if consumption is that much worse with the 1.6TDI passat, its maybe best i had avoided it.

What are you getting overall in terms of MPG?

A.J.M

7,919 posts

187 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Discovery 3. 82 litre fuel tank.

Best was 511, worst was 368. Usually get about 430-450 a tank.
going average over 18k is 23.10 mpg though.... hehe

Blown2CV

28,863 posts

204 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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A.J.M said:
Discovery 3. 82 litre fuel tank.

Best was 511, worst was 368. Usually get about 430-450 a tank.
going average over 18k is 23.10 mpg though.... hehe
out of a 3.82 litre fuel tank! Amazing!!

Pan Pan

1,116 posts

128 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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daemon said:
Pan Pan said:
Daemon - The Passat was not the most reliable car I ever had (in fact it was possibly the most unreliable) but for some reason I just liked it enough to get another one. Thats the thing with VW`s
on paper, they don't seem much different to most other cars, but there is something about them when used on an everyday basis that makes me kind of like them just that bit more.
Yes i would agree. In fairness i only hand mine for about a year so it went before i might have otherwise been seeing problems.

When i got the passat i always sort of thought maybe i should have got a golf, so this time i got a golf, and now i'm thinking i should maybe have got a passat!

Mind you, if consumption is that much worse with the 1.6TDI Passat, its maybe best i had avoided it.

What are you getting overall in terms of MPG?
Daemon -On the 2.0 ltr Passat I got an average of 63 mpg taken over the entire fuel input / miles covered. but on some fill ups, well over 1000 miles was possible if I brimmed the tank before a long journey, and used a light right foot. On the 1.6 Ltr it seems to be working out at around 51 mpg at best, but this `may' improve over time.