RE: Evoque: is it for girls?
Discussion
g3org3y said:
I'm assuming apart from the odd PHer who has bought one, 99% will never be used off road.
People who want genuine off road capability generally aren't tarty and buy a Defender/Disco/FFRR etc?
So what's the selling point? Smaller and easier to park than a RRS/FFRR hence appealing to the female market. Has a Range Rover badge - appeals to the trendy market.
Selling points? People who want genuine off road capability generally aren't tarty and buy a Defender/Disco/FFRR etc?
So what's the selling point? Smaller and easier to park than a RRS/FFRR hence appealing to the female market. Has a Range Rover badge - appeals to the trendy market.
1. I found the FFRR and my Discovery 4 too large when used 99% of the time with just me in it. Wanted something smaller.
2. I disliked the Disco's wallow around corners - same with the RRS and FFRR. The RRE Dynamic is much, much better at cornering.
3. I live in a hilly area and have had several BMW's (335I , Z4M etc) abandoned in icy, snowy conditions and dislike winter tyres so wanted a 4x4. And BMW X's, Audi's etc get just as stuck as their saloon equivalents so none of them either. The RRE is excellent in snow.
4. I've had several 'sporty' cars (335i, Z4M included) and wanted something mildly decent when pushing on. The Si4 240bhp 0-60 mph in 7.1 sec RRE (same as a Toyota GT86) and corners (Adaptive Dynamics, petrol version) not just 'good for a SUV' but good for a mild hatch and that's comparing it to our Mini Cooper S. I'm remapping mine to 280bhp next month.
5. I wanted something reasonable off-road - I never needed the Disco 4 capability but something decent over mud and wet grass would do. The RRE is fantastic and is hampered only by its clearance. I did the Land Rover Experience in Luton and it followed 3 Defenders around the course, did everything they did easily. Now I'm not saying it is anywhere near as capable as a Defender over very harsh terrain but it puts the German usuals to shame and, as I say, is really only hampered by its clearance. Check the latest Top Gear Magazine for their off-road review.
6. I like comfort and toys. The RRE is very comfortable with loads of toys. Easily as nice a place to be in as a fully specced RRS.
7. I wanted something that would still accommodate two teens (one 6ft 2 in tall), my wife and I and luggage for a fortnight on a trip to France and Belgium. The RRE has done this trip 3 times now with no problems at all. Plenty of room inside.
As for all-round vision, even without the 360 degree cameras it is very easy to park. However, with the cameras, it is easier with better vision all round than any car I've ever owned.
It is fun to drive and does everything I want it to do. Is it 'girly' though? Well, my old man thinks so - he lives in South Africa and drives a Defender and a Land Cruiser. But concedes the RRE is a nice place to be when he borrowed it for a drive around the country. Do I think it is a 'girly' car? I can see the appeal, women generally have good taste. Maybe it is?
I like women's car's though...Porsche 911, MX-5, Z4M...etc. Then again, I like 'proper Men's car's' too. I guess I just like cars!
- *wonder what my new Jag F-Type is gonna be perceived as being? Deposit going down soon, ideal little second car***
Edited by Coolbanana on Friday 12th October 21:04
Edited by Coolbanana on Friday 12th October 21:07
I just can't help it, so here is my tirade again. All very much IMO of course.
It is a SUV so pointless by default, since it combines the disadvantages of a traditional saloon with those of a 4x4. 95% of the owners would do better with a different type of car. But they like the style and that is the main selling point. And the only thing going for the RRE. It looks a little less revolting than the rest of the category.
Chacun son gout, so enjoy. But please don't reverse into my car because you can't park the monstrosity. And please don't block our little back road mountain passes back home because you think it will do OK on summer tyres.
It is a SUV so pointless by default, since it combines the disadvantages of a traditional saloon with those of a 4x4. 95% of the owners would do better with a different type of car. But they like the style and that is the main selling point. And the only thing going for the RRE. It looks a little less revolting than the rest of the category.
Chacun son gout, so enjoy. But please don't reverse into my car because you can't park the monstrosity. And please don't block our little back road mountain passes back home because you think it will do OK on summer tyres.
DonkeyApple said:
GokTweed said:
There is no way in hell that car is going to go off road unless the chelsea mum is on her phone and not paying attention and subsequently puts it through a hedge.
But what would the Chelsea Mum be doing in China, Russia or the Americas?Most of these cars will be offroaded as most will be used in less developed but wealthier countries than ours.
People need to try and get their head around the fact that this car was not made for the British but for people elsewhere with much more money. The fact that they will still sell a good chunk here is just a bonus.
sorry but no. They will be sold to China, Russia and NORTH America because that's where all the oil money is. Therefore full of rich people wanting to be the 'Chelsea mums' of their current geographical region.GokTweed said:
sorry but no. They will be sold to China, Russia and NORTH America because that's where all the oil money is. Therefore full of rich people wanting to be the 'Chelsea mums' of their current geographical region.I'm sure you will retort with a statement that you have travelled more than enough etc, so you will, when you reread my post, understand what is meant by the intimation of offloading in developing economies.
GokTweed said:
There is no way in hell that car is going to go off road unless the chelsea mum is on her phone and not paying attention and subsequently puts it through a hedge.
How wrong can a poster be? Sometimes I just give up with the clots that frequent PH
Edited by GetCarter on Saturday 13th October 17:46
Well, there's no denying women love the Evoque and it is the reigning Women's World Car of the Year.
The results for 2012 are:
Family car:
1st - BMW 3-series
2nd - Audi Q3
3rd - Ford Focus
Luxury car:
1st - Range Rover Evoque
2nd - Jaguar XJ
3rd - Audi A6
Sports car:
1st - Porsche 911
2nd - Jaguar XKR
3rd - Mercedes Benz SLK
Economy car:
1st - Honda Civic
2nd - VW Up!
3rd - Ford Fiesta
The supreme winner of the Women's World Car of the Year 2012 is:
Range Rover Evoque
2nd place - BMW 3-series
3rd place - Audi Q3
The 2011 Women's World Car of the Year was the BMW 5-series.
Soooo, we can deduce from this that anyone who drives any of the cars in the list above incl. RR Evoque, BMW 5-series, BMW 3-series, Porsche 911, Ford Focus, Ford Fiesta, Honda Civic and Jag XKR are, in fact, driving girly cars!
So all you M3 and M5-owning PHer's drive girly cars and all you folks who drive car's less capable than these and the 911 drive car's that get beat by girly cars!
The results for 2012 are:
Family car:
1st - BMW 3-series
2nd - Audi Q3
3rd - Ford Focus
Luxury car:
1st - Range Rover Evoque
2nd - Jaguar XJ
3rd - Audi A6
Sports car:
1st - Porsche 911
2nd - Jaguar XKR
3rd - Mercedes Benz SLK
Economy car:
1st - Honda Civic
2nd - VW Up!
3rd - Ford Fiesta
The supreme winner of the Women's World Car of the Year 2012 is:
Range Rover Evoque
2nd place - BMW 3-series
3rd place - Audi Q3
The 2011 Women's World Car of the Year was the BMW 5-series.
Soooo, we can deduce from this that anyone who drives any of the cars in the list above incl. RR Evoque, BMW 5-series, BMW 3-series, Porsche 911, Ford Focus, Ford Fiesta, Honda Civic and Jag XKR are, in fact, driving girly cars!
So all you M3 and M5-owning PHer's drive girly cars and all you folks who drive car's less capable than these and the 911 drive car's that get beat by girly cars!
GetCarter said:
How wrong can a poster be? Sometimes I just give up with the clots that frequent PH
Keyboard Warriors without a clue need only take a peek at November's Top Gear Magazine page 134 and have a look at an Evoque driving around the Atholl Estate in Highland Perthshire, Scotland and the top of Glen Bruar. The verdict was that the Evoque is no Defender but it is a very capable 4x4 in its own right and worthy of the Land Rover badge. I love how so many people who have not yet driven an Evoque can tell you that it is all style and no substance.
Yes I have got one and have covered about 5000 miles in it during my 3 months of ownership
Yes it is a very capable car and space inside is not an issue. In fact I did hear (and it may be showroom bullsh*t) that there is more room in the back than in an RRS - and yes I used to have one of those too.
As a second car I have an Aston Martin Vantage; I would say that the Aston is a much better looking car. No mention of that being a girls car
Anyway each to their own
Yes I have got one and have covered about 5000 miles in it during my 3 months of ownership
Yes it is a very capable car and space inside is not an issue. In fact I did hear (and it may be showroom bullsh*t) that there is more room in the back than in an RRS - and yes I used to have one of those too.
As a second car I have an Aston Martin Vantage; I would say that the Aston is a much better looking car. No mention of that being a girls car
Anyway each to their own
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