RE: SOTW: Chevrolet Blazer
Discussion
E38Ross said:
300bhp/ton said:
Aren't you comparing "on a run" figures for the Toyota's and more normal use for the Blazer though? Yes the 4.3 V6 won't be the most frugal, but it's also offering up smooth, quiet 190hp and 250lb ft and strong performance.
As does the similar aged 2.8 engine in my car, which is far more economical. 
Mark-C said:
SO what do people suggest as an alternative 4x4 for Shed money? I can't see many decent options ...
The mini Blazers are not a "decent option". They were trash, even when new, muchlike the Explorer. The decent instead option would indeed be walking. Thus you
would at least know right away that you will walk to work, not ending up on the
road shoulder without light and an umbrella...
Mark-C said:
SO what do people suggest as an alternative 4x4 for Shed money? I can't see many decent options ...
Discovery, Range Rover , Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, Shogun, Patrol , Teranno, Surf and that's without the not so decent sub 1 k Freelanders , Rav 4s Fronterras etc . If you just want a cheap workhorse the make and model is less important than the length of MOT and local availability of cheap secondhand parts.300bhp/ton said:
E38Ross said:
300bhp/ton said:
Aren't you comparing "on a run" figures for the Toyota's and more normal use for the Blazer though? Yes the 4.3 V6 won't be the most frugal, but it's also offering up smooth, quiet 190hp and 250lb ft and strong performance.
As does the similar aged 2.8 engine in my car, which is far more economical. E38Ross said:
300bhp/ton said:
E38Ross said:
300bhp/ton said:
Aren't you comparing "on a run" figures for the Toyota's and more normal use for the Blazer though? Yes the 4.3 V6 won't be the most frugal, but it's also offering up smooth, quiet 190hp and 250lb ft and strong performance.
As does the similar aged 2.8 engine in my car, which is far more economical. 300bhp/ton said:
said: FAIL!
Based on anything more than ignorance? Arrogance maybe? 
jondutyfree said:
I'm going to unlurk and weigh in in favour of this weeks SOTW, mainly bacause I bought one a couple of months ago! It's big and comfy and wallowy and has some nice toys, heated seats, electric folding mirrors etc, and you can get 20mpg from it, although I do seem to be listening to more country and western lately. Granted I did have to complete the journey home from picking it up on the back of a low loader due to a knackered alternator, but it was a cheap and easy fix. It should be noted that my local Chevrolet dealer say that they can't get parts for it, but I've got a Corvette specialist near me and they get regular parts deliveries from the States, and I get to check out all their cool cars while I'm there. I can see that it won't be to everyone's taste, but I'm enjoying it, possibly partly because I had a radio control one as a kid.
I think slightly longer ownership will have you yearning for the reliability of the radio control modelHell no! no no no no! Typical GM of the past, will run forever but will always run like crap. Electrical issues, transmission problems (well, probably none at 90k) and general issues with all the front end components crapping out. Even in the US there are a lot of complaints about the petrol/gas millage being horrible. Browse Craigslist in the US and you will see plenty of these for $1k, getting a used and running car in the US for $1k is near impossible, but everyone is trying too off load these. Classic Cherokee with the straight 6 would be a far better choice.
LuS1fer said:
ScoobieWRX said:
A petrol 2.7 Surf does around 23-25mpg on a run, and they weigh around 1800-1850Kg.
An extra 1.6ltr displacemenmt and 150Kg in oldskool technology is going to cost you more than 3-5mpg.
It's not like some of the yank V8's in something like a Cadillac or Lincoln that shut upto 4cyl off for economy on a steady run, you're getting all 6cyl all the time so IMHO 20mpg even on a run, sounds properly over optimistic.
I don't believe it, and i reckon in average UK motorway or town traffic you'll be lucky to see mid to high teens. I dread to think what the MPG will be when you're towing something.
I hope it's got a mahoosive fuel tank!!
You make many assumptions but adduce little by way of facts.An extra 1.6ltr displacemenmt and 150Kg in oldskool technology is going to cost you more than 3-5mpg.
It's not like some of the yank V8's in something like a Cadillac or Lincoln that shut upto 4cyl off for economy on a steady run, you're getting all 6cyl all the time so IMHO 20mpg even on a run, sounds properly over optimistic.
I don't believe it, and i reckon in average UK motorway or town traffic you'll be lucky to see mid to high teens. I dread to think what the MPG will be when you're towing something.
I hope it's got a mahoosive fuel tank!!
UK "road test" - http://www.newcarnet.co.uk/Chevrolet_Blazer_roadte...
16.5 USmpg in road tests: http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2001-ch... which is 19.8mpg.
Given it's less than a grand to start with, fuel is of less importance and any petrol is better to drive than a shonky old diesel.
Yep...Shonky old jap diesel motor returning 27mpg and will outlive your smooth and quiet petrol by 2or3:1
Sorry, what facts are you quoting??
ScoobieWRX said:
LuS1fer said:
ScoobieWRX said:
A petrol 2.7 Surf does around 23-25mpg on a run, and they weigh around 1800-1850Kg.
An extra 1.6ltr displacemenmt and 150Kg in oldskool technology is going to cost you more than 3-5mpg.
It's not like some of the yank V8's in something like a Cadillac or Lincoln that shut upto 4cyl off for economy on a steady run, you're getting all 6cyl all the time so IMHO 20mpg even on a run, sounds properly over optimistic.
I don't believe it, and i reckon in average UK motorway or town traffic you'll be lucky to see mid to high teens. I dread to think what the MPG will be when you're towing something.
I hope it's got a mahoosive fuel tank!!
You make many assumptions but adduce little by way of facts.An extra 1.6ltr displacemenmt and 150Kg in oldskool technology is going to cost you more than 3-5mpg.
It's not like some of the yank V8's in something like a Cadillac or Lincoln that shut upto 4cyl off for economy on a steady run, you're getting all 6cyl all the time so IMHO 20mpg even on a run, sounds properly over optimistic.
I don't believe it, and i reckon in average UK motorway or town traffic you'll be lucky to see mid to high teens. I dread to think what the MPG will be when you're towing something.
I hope it's got a mahoosive fuel tank!!
UK "road test" - http://www.newcarnet.co.uk/Chevrolet_Blazer_roadte...
16.5 USmpg in road tests: http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2001-ch... which is 19.8mpg.
Given it's less than a grand to start with, fuel is of less importance and any petrol is better to drive than a shonky old diesel.
Yep...Shonky old jap diesel motor returning 27mpg and will outlive your smooth and quiet petrol by 2or3:1
Sorry, what facts are you quoting??
EDIT:
The .co.uk URL might be a bit of a give away too
[quote=Nors]I'd rather dip my man sack in a bowl of chillies.
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Well, off you go then, what's stopping you? Post it up on youtube when you're done.
I am in the minority, it would seem, as I quite like it (considering it could be had for perhaps £700?). I don't do many miles, so MPG isn't an issue and I often need loads of space.
Sure, there have been better Sheds, but why not something different like this for a change?
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Well, off you go then, what's stopping you? Post it up on youtube when you're done.
I am in the minority, it would seem, as I quite like it (considering it could be had for perhaps £700?). I don't do many miles, so MPG isn't an issue and I often need loads of space.
Sure, there have been better Sheds, but why not something different like this for a change?
tr7v8 said:
ScoobieWRX said:
tr7v8 said:
ScoobieWRX said:
I'll stick to my 96 Toyo 3rd Gen Surf. It's way cooler than this and does 27mpg (3.0 Diesel) on a run.
I don't see the allure, even for under a 'bag o sand', and it's fugly as sin.
There's no way it does 20mpg, and it must easy weigh a couple of tons.
Perhaps if it was diesel it might have some merit as purely a workhorse for towing and shifting stuff about without worrying about it getting dented, and be worth a punt if everything else was guaranteed in working order but it's no looker to be seen in. Where's the cool??
Roll on next SOTW!!
Yup the US forums seem to reckon on a UK average of 20+MPG, & it is another 150-200kg heavier than your Surf according to Wiki!I don't see the allure, even for under a 'bag o sand', and it's fugly as sin.
There's no way it does 20mpg, and it must easy weigh a couple of tons.
Perhaps if it was diesel it might have some merit as purely a workhorse for towing and shifting stuff about without worrying about it getting dented, and be worth a punt if everything else was guaranteed in working order but it's no looker to be seen in. Where's the cool??
Roll on next SOTW!!
An extra 1.6ltr displacemenmt and 150Kg in oldskool technology is going to cost you more than 3-5mpg.
It's not like some of the yank V8's in something like a Cadillac or Lincoln that shut upto 4cyl off for economy on a steady run, you're getting all 6cyl all the time so IMHO 20mpg even on a run, sounds properly over optimistic.
I don't believe it, and i reckon in average UK motorway or town traffic you'll be lucky to see mid to high teens. I dread to think what the MPG will be when you're towing something.
I hope it's got a mahoosive fuel tank!!
My Grand Cherokee is around the 1800-1900KG as well.
My 4l Grand cherokee can get 20MPG+ on a motorway run, it is the cold starts & short runs that kill the consumption. So I expect the Blazer will be about the same.
I had a 4.0L Wrangler Jeep (auto) and i was lucky to see 18-20mpg on a good day taking it very easy on the Motorway. Most of the time around town i was lucky to see low to mid teens. Economy was horrendous so got rid after 6mths.
Before taking wiki facts as gospel i would be looking at Blazer tech forums if there is one, or in the workshop manual, again if there is one to find out exactly what it weighs.
300bhp/ton said:
ScoobieWRX said:
LuS1fer said:
ScoobieWRX said:
A petrol 2.7 Surf does around 23-25mpg on a run, and they weigh around 1800-1850Kg.
An extra 1.6ltr displacemenmt and 150Kg in oldskool technology is going to cost you more than 3-5mpg.
It's not like some of the yank V8's in something like a Cadillac or Lincoln that shut upto 4cyl off for economy on a steady run, you're getting all 6cyl all the time so IMHO 20mpg even on a run, sounds properly over optimistic.
I don't believe it, and i reckon in average UK motorway or town traffic you'll be lucky to see mid to high teens. I dread to think what the MPG will be when you're towing something.
I hope it's got a mahoosive fuel tank!!
You make many assumptions but adduce little by way of facts.An extra 1.6ltr displacemenmt and 150Kg in oldskool technology is going to cost you more than 3-5mpg.
It's not like some of the yank V8's in something like a Cadillac or Lincoln that shut upto 4cyl off for economy on a steady run, you're getting all 6cyl all the time so IMHO 20mpg even on a run, sounds properly over optimistic.
I don't believe it, and i reckon in average UK motorway or town traffic you'll be lucky to see mid to high teens. I dread to think what the MPG will be when you're towing something.
I hope it's got a mahoosive fuel tank!!
UK "road test" - http://www.newcarnet.co.uk/Chevrolet_Blazer_roadte...
16.5 USmpg in road tests: http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2001-ch... which is 19.8mpg.
Given it's less than a grand to start with, fuel is of less importance and any petrol is better to drive than a shonky old diesel.
Yep...Shonky old jap diesel motor returning 27mpg and will outlive your smooth and quiet petrol by 2or3:1
Sorry, what facts are you quoting??
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/oneyear/112_96...
One of the criticisms of this car is it is not PH enough but if you're offering a diesel Toyota as being more PH then there's not much hope.
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