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devnull said:
So let me get this straight - granted the current owners haven't declared the engine change, but is it possible for the new owner to do the change themselves and stay legal? Or has something else happened lately that effectively 'bans' the change?
Welcome to the thread. It isn't so much an issue of paperwork but one of two things. Tracing the donor engine and checking it's legitimacy. The reason this thread was started was because a friend brought an E36 M3 powered Touring and the engine turned out to be from a stolen car.
If the conversion has been carried out by "professionals" it makes you think if they can't be arsed to send a form off to the DVLA what other jobs have they been too lazy to do properly?
I'm not suggesting the Vectra engine in this Astra is stolen nor am I suggesting that the conversion has been bodged but for the sake of a stamp I'm not willing to risk it.
Liquid Knight said:
devnull said:
So let me get this straight - granted the current owners haven't declared the engine change, but is it possible for the new owner to do the change themselves and stay legal? Or has something else happened lately that effectively 'bans' the change?
Welcome to the thread. It isn't so much an issue of paperwork but one of two things. Tracing the donor engine and checking it's legitimacy. The reason this thread was started was because a friend brought an E36 M3 powered Touring and the engine turned out to be from a stolen car.
If the conversion has been carried out by "professionals" it makes you think if they can't be arsed to send a form off to the DVLA what other jobs have they been too lazy to do properly?
I'm not suggesting the Vectra engine in this Astra is stolen nor am I suggesting that the conversion has been bodged but for the sake of a stamp I'm not willing to risk it.
With the complexities of successful registration currently, I have found that five of the kit car builders I know, locally, all long established business, all making a decent living, will actually undertake the IVA of part built or supposedly finished kit cars.
Too many problems. Short of dismantling such a project, to enable accurate assessments of the build quality and viability of the car, there is no way to accurately assess costs. Which would be essential, if offered this job. There is no way to establish a reasonable price, which might actually result in IVA being achieved on a part built kit and these business have been used to finising many part built cars a year, in years gone by.
The days of easy registration of any heavily modified cars without full detais supporting documentation etc has gone.
Therefore as Liquid Knight correctly says such cars are best avoided. Not worth the candle.
Liquid Knight said:
Indeed. Best avoided. The message concerning the difficulties of getting car correctly registered with heavy unrecorded modifications is getting through. These cars seem to not sell, then reappear, then not sell. 
Bungleaio said:
The mini is quite a popular conversion, but this one hasn't been registered as a change
A legal requirement that may or then again, may not, be at all easy to achieve. Almost certain to be changes to the Mini subframe if in fact the subframe is still used. Monocoque may or may not be compromised. That could present stumbling blocks with the DVLA. Engine may or may not acceptable with appropriate paperwork to the DVLA. That could be a real problem. Personally I would avoid the car but it might sell. These are as you say a popular conversion. However probably not insurable OTR unless correctly registered. Which is the real stumbling block.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-PUNTO-GT-Turbo-Conv...
"My heavily modified mk1 Punto GT Cabriolet is up for sale its had a 1.4 GT engine transplant but has not been declared to the DVLA (never got round to doing it)."
"My heavily modified mk1 Punto GT Cabriolet is up for sale its had a 1.4 GT engine transplant but has not been declared to the DVLA (never got round to doing it)."
tomsugden said:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-PUNTO-GT-Turbo-Conv...
"My heavily modified mk1 Punto GT Cabriolet is up for sale its had a 1.4 GT engine transplant but has not been declared to the DVLA (never got round to doing it)."
All the usual concerns apply. Unlawful OTR and very probably very tricky to register. Best avoided."My heavily modified mk1 Punto GT Cabriolet is up for sale its had a 1.4 GT engine transplant but has not been declared to the DVLA (never got round to doing it)."
rovermorris999 said:
I wonder if this work has been declared?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STANDARD-8-/231640431293...
1956, does it need MOT & VED?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STANDARD-8-/231640431293...
gowmonster said:
rovermorris999 said:
I wonder if this work has been declared?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STANDARD-8-/231640431293...
1956, does it need MOT & VED?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STANDARD-8-/231640431293...
Liquid Knight said:
gowmonster said:
rovermorris999 said:
I wonder if this work has been declared?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STANDARD-8-/231640431293...
1956, does it need MOT & VED?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STANDARD-8-/231640431293...
I'd say email DLVA unfortunately their website https://emaildvla.direct.gov.uk/ seems to have outdated SSL ciphers so is a bit insecure... so y'd probably better phoning their reception if they have one and ask.
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