RE: Chris Harris video: BMW M135i vs Audi RS3

RE: Chris Harris video: BMW M135i vs Audi RS3

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tommy vercetti

Original Poster:

11,489 posts

164 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Digger said:
A certain Mr Clarkson has witten a piece in todays Sunday Times!
Link?

Petoz

116 posts

186 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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tommy vercetti said:
Link?
I came across it on the babybmw forum. Not sure the original article can be read without subscription. Link to babybmw forum
here.

Digger

14,699 posts

192 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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tommy vercetti said:
Digger said:
A certain Mr Clarkson has witten a piece in todays Sunday Times!
Link?
WHSMITHS

cerb4.5lee

30,734 posts

181 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Petoz said:
tommy vercetti said:
Link?
I came across it on the babybmw forum. Not sure the original article can be read without subscription. Link to babybmw forum
here.
Thanks for posting the link thumbup

Good write up.

tommy vercetti

Original Poster:

11,489 posts

164 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Petoz said:
tommy vercetti said:
Link?
I came across it on the babybmw forum. Not sure the original article can be read without subscription. Link to babybmw forum
here.
Thanks

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

204 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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I saw one of these M135i's today...or at least I thought I did. It had all of the trimmings including the wheels and so on, even a badge down the side saying M Performance, looked very tasteful and purposeful until it went past and had a frikkin 116i badge on the back!

FFS

rofl

vescaegg

25,576 posts

168 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Must admit I am a fan of Clarksons not-writing-about-the-car car reviews.

Interesting that James May has bought a 458 too!

thepony

1,697 posts

166 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Good piece I enjoyed that :-)

blearyeyedboy

6,304 posts

180 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Urban Sports said:
I saw one of these M135i's today...or at least I thought I did. It had all of the trimmings including the wheels and so on, even a badge down the side saying M Performance, looked very tasteful and purposeful until it went past and had a frikkin 116i badge on the back!

FFS

rofl
If I had one, I'd badge it 116i. But then, I'm weird. wink

Dave Hedgehog

14,569 posts

205 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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blearyeyedboy said:
Urban Sports said:
I saw one of these M135i's today...or at least I thought I did. It had all of the trimmings including the wheels and so on, even a badge down the side saying M Performance, looked very tasteful and purposeful until it went past and had a frikkin 116i badge on the back!

FFS

rofl
If I had one, I'd badge it 116i. But then, I'm weird. wink
my R32 golf spent the 5 years i had it badged 2.0 TDi, i had a tuned biturbo S4 badged A4 1.8 biggrin

Frada01

57 posts

132 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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What Chris failed to comment on was the build quality of each car. After watching this review I immediately went on a mission to buy the m135i..

Now a good number of months into the experience I can only say I've been left feeling totally disappointed. Bargain of the decade. Maybe not..

Very cheaply put together BMW with hooligan power delivery certainly.

Just look at the boot floor to see what I'm talking about. Sound crazy but if they are cutting cost here where else did they cut costs.


Wolands Advocate

2,495 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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There's always someone dissatisfied. Sell it then and buy an S3 (but not an RS3) then if perceived quality is the be all and end all. I agree that the boot-floor flock and parcel shelf are of noticeably cheap quality but that's just BMW for you - the quality of the boot trimmings in the E60 M5 I had before wasn't noticeably better. For some reason, unless you opt for an estate (or possibly a 7 series – don't know, have never looked in the boot of one), BMW seems to think a cheap flock-lined boot is perfectly acceptable. As for cost-cutting, I'm afraid you'll find they are all at it. Just touch any surface in a VAG product that VAG don't reckon you'll touch regularly and be prepared for quite a difference in quality from the bits they expect you to touch regularly. But over 7 months and 5k miles, I have found no issue with the trim finish or build quality in the rest of the cabin of my M135i and I don't find it feels in any way noticeably cheaply put together after the M5, which generally had a finish befitting a £75k car. Then again, it also depends on your point of view. I don't consider a £30k car an especially expensive car so therefore am not expecting it to possess luxury car levels of fit and finish, particularly not when it is simply the top dog in a range starting below £20k.

Yes, the new A3 has a noticeably nicer interior and Audi at least sees fit to carpet the boot properly but if that was what really mattered in a driver's car, no one would ever buy a Lotus or, for that matter, a Porsche (which until very recently always had remarkably cheap-feeling interiors) at double the price. I tried an RS3 before buying my M135i but whilst it all felt ok-enough screwed together, it was also very dated inside with a sat nav Noah might have been familiar with. No amount of leather makes that feel like the interior of a £40k car, or even a new car. Whereas at £30k, the interior of the M135i is modern, up-to-date tech-wise and looks and feels about right (to me at any rate).

urquattroGus

1,849 posts

191 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Wolands Advocate said:
There's always someone dissatisfied. Sell it then and buy an S3 (but not an RS3) then if perceived quality is the be all and end all. I agree that the boot-floor flock and parcel shelf are of noticeably cheap quality but that's just BMW for you - the quality of the boot trimmings in the E60 M5 I had before wasn't noticeably better. For some reason, unless you opt for an estate (or possibly a 7 series – don't know, have never looked in the boot of one), BMW seems to think a cheap flock-lined boot is perfectly acceptable. As for cost-cutting, I'm afraid you'll find they are all at it. Just touch any surface in a VAG product that VAG don't reckon you'll touch regularly and be prepared for quite a difference in quality from the bits they expect you to touch regularly. But over 7 months and 5k miles, I have found no issue with the trim finish or build quality in the rest of the cabin of my M135i and I don't find it feels in any way noticeably cheaply put together after the M5, which generally had a finish befitting a £75k car. Then again, it also depends on your point of view. I don't consider a £30k car an especially expensive car so therefore am not expecting it to possess luxury car levels of fit and finish, particularly not when it is simply the top dog in a range starting below £20k.

Yes, the new A3 has a noticeably nicer interior and Audi at least sees fit to carpet the boot properly but if that was what really mattered in a driver's car, no one would ever buy a Lotus or, for that matter, a Porsche (which until very recently always had remarkably cheap-feeling interiors) at double the price. I tried an RS3 before buying my M135i but whilst it all felt ok-enough screwed together, it was also very dated inside with a sat nav Noah might have been familiar with. No amount of leather makes that feel like the interior of a £40k car, or even a new car. Whereas at £30k, the interior of the M135i is modern, up-to-date tech-wise and looks and feels about right (to me at any rate).
What he said +1 smile

astirling

419 posts

173 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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urquattroGus said:
Wolands Advocate said:
There's always someone dissatisfied. Sell it then and buy an S3 (but not an RS3) then if perceived quality is the be all and end all. I agree that the boot-floor flock and parcel shelf are of noticeably cheap quality but that's just BMW for you - the quality of the boot trimmings in the E60 M5 I had before wasn't noticeably better. For some reason, unless you opt for an estate (or possibly a 7 series – don't know, have never looked in the boot of one), BMW seems to think a cheap flock-lined boot is perfectly acceptable. As for cost-cutting, I'm afraid you'll find they are all at it. Just touch any surface in a VAG product that VAG don't reckon you'll touch regularly and be prepared for quite a difference in quality from the bits they expect you to touch regularly. But over 7 months and 5k miles, I have found no issue with the trim finish or build quality in the rest of the cabin of my M135i and I don't find it feels in any way noticeably cheaply put together after the M5, which generally had a finish befitting a £75k car. Then again, it also depends on your point of view. I don't consider a £30k car an especially expensive car so therefore am not expecting it to possess luxury car levels of fit and finish, particularly not when it is simply the top dog in a range starting below £20k.

Yes, the new A3 has a noticeably nicer interior and Audi at least sees fit to carpet the boot properly but if that was what really mattered in a driver's car, no one would ever buy a Lotus or, for that matter, a Porsche (which until very recently always had remarkably cheap-feeling interiors) at double the price. I tried an RS3 before buying my M135i but whilst it all felt ok-enough screwed together, it was also very dated inside with a sat nav Noah might have been familiar with. No amount of leather makes that feel like the interior of a £40k car, or even a new car. Whereas at £30k, the interior of the M135i is modern, up-to-date tech-wise and looks and feels about right (to me at any rate).
What he said +1 smile
Another +1 from a fellow owner.