100,000 mile club.
Discussion
kmack said:
I ran a fleet of x6 2007 1.2 Vauxhall Corsa's and whilst they were all serviced properly, they had a hard life. The record was 196k miles. All of them managed in excess of 160k + before giving up. Up until they went bang, they drove reasonably well. Not bad for a small engine...
In the 1.5 years I've owned it.. I've nearly spent the purchase cost on repairs! Edited by kmack on Tuesday 15th December 11:48
My old Celica 190 had approx 120k miles on it when I sold it back in 2007. According to the MOT checkup thing it's still on the road and being used. The bonnet was a bit f*cked by a high pressure hose lifting the lacquer off a stone chip (thanks, Albanian gangster car washer bloke, I'm guessing your insurance will take care of this... no? Alright then...) and I felt the clutch was beginning to slip a bit but generally it performed as new.
My current Audi has 119k miles on it, engine and gearbox seem flawless (he says before a major check-up and service on Friday...!). A few minor interior rattles, but the engine parps away powerfully and the gearbox (by some miracle) is seamless.
I've stopped telling people how many miles are on my cars as apparently anything over 50k may as well be scrapped. Even my dad who used to have an engineer's rational view of things sucked his teeth when I said the Audi had done over 100k.
My current Audi has 119k miles on it, engine and gearbox seem flawless (he says before a major check-up and service on Friday...!). A few minor interior rattles, but the engine parps away powerfully and the gearbox (by some miracle) is seamless.
I've stopped telling people how many miles are on my cars as apparently anything over 50k may as well be scrapped. Even my dad who used to have an engineer's rational view of things sucked his teeth when I said the Audi had done over 100k.
pSyCoSiS said:
My 2009 Mercedes 211 E280 CDI Sport has done 248k miles!
Still drives as tight as a drum.
Before I bought this, I was considering an S320 CDI with 400k miles, but that sold before I got to see it.
Had plenty of 530d at 280k+ plus miles - nothing wrong with them! The cars are built to last, as long as they are maintained correctly.
Pure coincidence but yesterday a work collegue offered me a lift whith his girlfriend who was picking him up and she had the same car but the milage was 648,000km and if i am correct that is 402,648Miles as a passenger it still felt tight didnt knock bang whistle or creak and still had the power it came with. original engine turbo suspention etc. just had been maintained as it should have!Still drives as tight as a drum.
Before I bought this, I was considering an S320 CDI with 400k miles, but that sold before I got to see it.
Had plenty of 530d at 280k+ plus miles - nothing wrong with them! The cars are built to last, as long as they are maintained correctly.
andyps said:
PHMatt said:
You don't notice how knackered a 100k miler is until you get in a very low mileage equivalent.
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I've taken my E46 from 62k to 82k in 5 years - It's been serviced. I have regularly changed worn our components. It feels nothing at all like it did when I bought it. It used to be surefooted now it does it wants to do. There's rattled and bangs that weren't there before. The engine is good though! Oh no, ECU light never goes off.
I doubt anyone with high milers have trouble free driving but we all kid ourselves. All my cars have been 60k plus and rarely does a month go by when nothing needs fixing.
I think you must be very unlucky in your cars, or you don't treat them well whilst driving. If 20k miles on an E46 has taken it from sure-footed to doing what it wants then it sounds like you have probably used very poor roads and not replaced the suspension and steering components which have worn excessively. Maybe try getting it serviced elsewhere by someone who does a proper job! Sorry if that sounds critical of yourself but I find it very concerning that you think that to be normal. I have two cars I regularly use - a 2003 XK8 which is approaching 160k miles and a 1998 Fiat Coupe which is on 196k. Whilst neither of them are quite as rattle free as they were when new they are both as sure-footed to drive as ever, but when they haven't been whatever has worn to cause that has been replaced. The Fiat is sure-footed enough to be used regularly for hillclimbing and sets respectable times without scaring me (I can do that myself without needing the car to add to it!). And the ECU lights are off on both!.........
I've taken my E46 from 62k to 82k in 5 years - It's been serviced. I have regularly changed worn our components. It feels nothing at all like it did when I bought it. It used to be surefooted now it does it wants to do. There's rattled and bangs that weren't there before. The engine is good though! Oh no, ECU light never goes off.
I doubt anyone with high milers have trouble free driving but we all kid ourselves. All my cars have been 60k plus and rarely does a month go by when nothing needs fixing.
With over 1000 miles per month covered between the cars (mainly in the Jag) there are many months which pass without anything needing fixing. Maybe it is your average of 4k miles per year which is the problem - drive the car more!
Unless they're identical cars and have amassed the miles in the same way they're incomparable.
I would definitely prefer 100k motorway miles on a car than 60k miles of the kind of driving I do.
In my 5 years and 20k miles I have replaced (myself because I noticed they were failing, MOT's and services didn't bring it up)
Wishbone
Drop links
ARB bushes
Wishbone bushes
Steering coupler
The shocks look ok, there's no movement from the top mounts, no oil leaking, no excessive rust.
I just think after 82k miles of pot holes the whole lot is a bit looser and a bit noisier than it used to be. Short of taking the entire front (and rear perhaps) end off and cleaning up and tightening up every single nut and bolt that holds it all together, I doubt it'll ever be like it was when it was new.
There's probably another E46 out there with more miles but far less wear and tear.
The wife and I are expecting so we both need new cars. The E46 will become an X3 that will only be used for longer drives and her Puma will become something with 5 doors for short trips.
If you want to talk high mileages talk to an ozzie long distance trucker. I am in West Australia which had a boom in the early 80's. There are Macks and Kenworths bought then that are still on the road now that have knocked up figures like 3.6 million kilometres. Owner drivers talk of top end rebuilds at 1.2 million with full rebuild at 2.6 million. And remember these vehicles are not cruising at 70mph in fifth gear these are road trains pulling 90 tonnes, engine at full boost in 40degC heat for hours on end, gearboxes continually changing to keep that rig rolling. That's what you call engineering.
Crazy Don said:
If you want to talk high mileages talk to an ozzie long distance trucker. I am in West Australia which had a boom in the early 80's. There are Macks and Kenworths bought then that are still on the road now that have knocked up figures like 3.6 million kilometres. Owner drivers talk of top end rebuilds at 1.2 million with full rebuild at 2.6 million. And remember these vehicles are not cruising at 70mph in fifth gear these are road trains pulling 90 tonnes, engine at full boost in 40degC heat for hours on end, gearboxes continually changing to keep that rig rolling. That's what you call engineering.
3.6 million km is bugger all for a lorry over 35 or so years!
PHMatt said:
You're not wrong at all with what you say - but I don't use the "wrong" roads I use "the" roads. The simple fact of the matter is, most roads in the UK are pot holed patchworked crap. It really does take it's toll on owners such as myself who only use the car for local driving and not repmobile motorway driving. This is why I said you cannot sweepingly say car a with 100k miles feels as tight as car b with 25k miles etc etc.
Unless they're identical cars and have amassed the miles in the same way they're incomparable.
I would definitely prefer 100k motorway miles on a car than 60k miles of the kind of driving I do.
In my 5 years and 20k miles I have replaced (myself because I noticed they were failing, MOT's and services didn't bring it up)
Wishbone
Drop links
ARB bushes
Wishbone bushes
Steering coupler
The shocks look ok, there's no movement from the top mounts, no oil leaking, no excessive rust.
I just think after 82k miles of pot holes the whole lot is a bit looser and a bit noisier than it used to be. Short of taking the entire front (and rear perhaps) end off and cleaning up and tightening up every single nut and bolt that holds it all together, I doubt it'll ever be like it was when it was new.
There's probably another E46 out there with more miles but far less wear and tear.
The wife and I are expecting so we both need new cars. The E46 will become an X3 that will only be used for longer drives and her Puma will become something with 5 doors for short trips.
I can't figure out if you're saying higher miles is good or bad!Unless they're identical cars and have amassed the miles in the same way they're incomparable.
I would definitely prefer 100k motorway miles on a car than 60k miles of the kind of driving I do.
In my 5 years and 20k miles I have replaced (myself because I noticed they were failing, MOT's and services didn't bring it up)
Wishbone
Drop links
ARB bushes
Wishbone bushes
Steering coupler
The shocks look ok, there's no movement from the top mounts, no oil leaking, no excessive rust.
I just think after 82k miles of pot holes the whole lot is a bit looser and a bit noisier than it used to be. Short of taking the entire front (and rear perhaps) end off and cleaning up and tightening up every single nut and bolt that holds it all together, I doubt it'll ever be like it was when it was new.
There's probably another E46 out there with more miles but far less wear and tear.
The wife and I are expecting so we both need new cars. The E46 will become an X3 that will only be used for longer drives and her Puma will become something with 5 doors for short trips.
Personally, I think there are things to be expected on higher milers, like slightly tattier bodywork, a bit more wear inside and maybe a trim rattle or two more than normal. Nothing that can't be put right, anyway.
All the lower mileage cars I've had seem to be mint inside, slightly lacking performance-wise, have far fewer stone chips and less rust underneath (though possibly just as much, if not more on the bodywork).
In short, treat each car on its merits. Mileage is just a number, as far as I'm concerned.
Glutton said:
What's the quickest anyone's hit 100k, my Leon is eight weeks old and has just ticked over 12k! If the trend continues I'll hit 100k by early 2017!
cheatimg really but my friends a truck driver his truck used 12 hours by him ,someone else at night ,has done 36,000 in 3 months
I've got an Audi A4 diesel with 276,000 miles which I've had from new and an E Class petrol Merc with 205,000 miles. For those who might be interested the Merc is still on it's first set of spark plugs and is only just showing signs that they need replacing - 2 per cylinder so 12 to do!!
I reckon I've done well over a million miles in 40 years of driving and have had at least 4 cars excluding the above which have exceeded 100,000 miles.
I reckon I've done well over a million miles in 40 years of driving and have had at least 4 cars excluding the above which have exceeded 100,000 miles.
michael243 said:
kmack said:
I ran a fleet of x6 2007 1.2 Vauxhall Corsa's and whilst they were all serviced properly, they had a hard life. The record was 196k miles. All of them managed in excess of 160k + before giving up. Up until they went bang, they drove reasonably well. Not bad for a small engine...
In the 1.5 years I've owned it.. I've nearly spent the purchase cost on repairs! Edited by kmack on Tuesday 15th December 11:48
1. Nissan Sunny - bought with 77k sold with 123k
2. Toyota Camry - bought with 55k sold with 215k
3. BMW 523i Touring bought with 66k sold with 166k (engine blew up due to failed water pump)
4. Subaru Forester 2.0XLn - bought with 112k still using with 160k 7 years on
5. BMW 320d E92 bought with 8k still using with 133k 7 years on.
I had a ride in a Kia Sedona taxi a while back 58 plate 450k on clock.
2. Toyota Camry - bought with 55k sold with 215k
3. BMW 523i Touring bought with 66k sold with 166k (engine blew up due to failed water pump)
4. Subaru Forester 2.0XLn - bought with 112k still using with 160k 7 years on
5. BMW 320d E92 bought with 8k still using with 133k 7 years on.
I had a ride in a Kia Sedona taxi a while back 58 plate 450k on clock.
130k in a 2012 M5! I wouldn't want to pay the fuel bill...
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Kitchski said:
PHMatt said:
You're not wrong at all with what you say - but I don't use the "wrong" roads I use "the" roads. The simple fact of the matter is, most roads in the UK are pot holed patchworked crap. It really does take it's toll on owners such as myself who only use the car for local driving and not repmobile motorway driving. This is why I said you cannot sweepingly say car a with 100k miles feels as tight as car b with 25k miles etc etc.
Unless they're identical cars and have amassed the miles in the same way they're incomparable.
I would definitely prefer 100k motorway miles on a car than 60k miles of the kind of driving I do.
In my 5 years and 20k miles I have replaced (myself because I noticed they were failing, MOT's and services didn't bring it up)
Wishbone
Drop links
ARB bushes
Wishbone bushes
Steering coupler
The shocks look ok, there's no movement from the top mounts, no oil leaking, no excessive rust.
I just think after 82k miles of pot holes the whole lot is a bit looser and a bit noisier than it used to be. Short of taking the entire front (and rear perhaps) end off and cleaning up and tightening up every single nut and bolt that holds it all together, I doubt it'll ever be like it was when it was new.
There's probably another E46 out there with more miles but far less wear and tear.
The wife and I are expecting so we both need new cars. The E46 will become an X3 that will only be used for longer drives and her Puma will become something with 5 doors for short trips.
I can't figure out if you're saying higher miles is good or bad!Unless they're identical cars and have amassed the miles in the same way they're incomparable.
I would definitely prefer 100k motorway miles on a car than 60k miles of the kind of driving I do.
In my 5 years and 20k miles I have replaced (myself because I noticed they were failing, MOT's and services didn't bring it up)
Wishbone
Drop links
ARB bushes
Wishbone bushes
Steering coupler
The shocks look ok, there's no movement from the top mounts, no oil leaking, no excessive rust.
I just think after 82k miles of pot holes the whole lot is a bit looser and a bit noisier than it used to be. Short of taking the entire front (and rear perhaps) end off and cleaning up and tightening up every single nut and bolt that holds it all together, I doubt it'll ever be like it was when it was new.
There's probably another E46 out there with more miles but far less wear and tear.
The wife and I are expecting so we both need new cars. The E46 will become an X3 that will only be used for longer drives and her Puma will become something with 5 doors for short trips.
Personally, I think there are things to be expected on higher milers, like slightly tattier bodywork, a bit more wear inside and maybe a trim rattle or two more than normal. Nothing that can't be put right, anyway.
All the lower mileage cars I've had seem to be mint inside, slightly lacking performance-wise, have far fewer stone chips and less rust underneath (though possibly just as much, if not more on the bodywork).
In short, treat each car on its merits. Mileage is just a number, as far as I'm concerned.
Clearly driving on straight flat roads without braking much at a steady 3.5k rpms would be far less damaging to a car than 60k miles over terrible surfaces getting in and out, stopping and starting, high and low revving, short trips without warming the car fully and cooling down fully.
There's also the annoying fact people buy a car with 100k miles on it and claim it drives like new despite not knowing what it drove like when new or doing 100k miles in it themselves and not realizing it's nothing like it was 100k miles ago.
You just learn to compensate as the miles pass. If you got in a new equivalent it would feel strange.
PHMatt said:
There's also the annoying fact people buy a car with 100k miles on it and claim it drives like new despite not knowing what it drove like when new or doing 100k miles in it themselves and not realizing it's nothing like it was 100k miles ago.
You just learn to compensate as the miles pass. If you got in a new equivalent it would feel strange.
Totally agree. I regularly read adverts advertising cars with big miles saying the car 'drives as new' it doesn't! One of my cars has only 16k on the clock and 18 months old and its been exceptionally well looked after, but I bet if I got in a brand new one now I would feel a slight difference.You just learn to compensate as the miles pass. If you got in a new equivalent it would feel strange.
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