RE: PH Heroes: Peugeot 405 Mi16

[Ollieb7]

Adenauer said:

I have a gay friend who owns a whiite one of these, nice cars.

Shoot that man.

[Antj]

Best 4 door?

Sorry ph but you forgot the 309 gti and the 405 T16

[monthefish]

MrTappets said:

1100 kgs? How times change

Indeed. But what is also interesting is the 0-62mph: 8.2 sec, figure, which for the top of the range, high performance model and was obviously seen as fairly decent in those days.

Nowadays, my BMW 320d which is the base diesel engine in the range, achives the same time.

[The Jolly Todger]

monthefish said:

Indeed. But what is also interesting is the 0-62mph: 8.2 sec, figure, which for the top of the range, high performance model and was obviously seen as fairly decent in those days.

Nowadays, my BMW 320d which is the base diesel engine in the range, achieves the same time.

And that, no offence to your car, is a perfect example of how 0-60 times only have very limited usefulness. Your point is valid though, that time would never be acceptable for a range topper today.

[mat205125]

MrTappets said:

1100 kgs? How times change

Looks really sharp and cohesive too. Designers of modern blobby shapes with corporate faces take note!

[Adenauer]

trunks82 said:

Adenauer said:

I have a gay friend who owns a whiite one of these, nice cars.

Is you're friends sexuality important withen the context of the article?

Yes, yes it is.

[ringweekends]

Adenauer said:

trunks82 said:

Adenauer said:

I have a gay friend who owns a whiite one of these, nice cars.

Is you're friends sexuality important withen the context of the article?

Yes, yes it is.

Harrow!

[Sivraj]

Didn't have much to do with the Pugs until 1998 but I served my time at a small Citroen garage when these were on the go.
Had a few drag races between the BX GTI and the BX TZD (1.7 Derv turbo)and there wasn't a great deal in it.
The 16V did pick its skirt at 3,500 revs though.

[LesKellet]

I had an early Mi16 - the 1.9 had 10 more bhp than the later 2.0 - for 6 to 7 years. Many happy tens of thousands of miles - until it began to fall apart. Great cars for the times, and what it was.

[BazT]

Fantastic cars with an even better powerplant!

Another PH article riddled with errors, even if slight.

drakart said:

Dad had a white 405 Mi16x4 H157 NDU as a replacement for his E34 535i Sport.

One of mine was H531NDU, a 4x4.

[Nors]

LesKellet said:

Many happy tens of thousands of miles - until it began to fall apart.

The one big problem with Pug's, especially from this era - brittle. Don't know what the Mi16 engine was like, but, you used to see plenty SRi's around with blue smoke bellowing from the exhaust and not purley high milage ones.

[Motorrad]

Adenauer said:

Yes, yes it is.

He means gay as in happy, full of joy because he drives such a great car.

Test drove a ropey example back in the late 90s, it was still good but like so many other people I thought a 205GTi was cooler at the time and bought one instead.

[ringweekends]

I recall the early 8v 1.9 models being prone to early (bore I think) wear, it was fixed on later models.

The XU9J4's are pretty good to be honest - mine made it to 150k hard miles before needing work.

[eliotrw]

The engine that replaced it was in the 306 s16 not the GTI which was the 155hp XU10J4R

Which was then replaced itself with the engine in the 306 gti-6 /rallye/zx dakar/xsara vts
whihc was the 2.0 Xu10j4rs and was 167hp

[Adenauer]

ringweekends said:

Harrow!

Boy am I glad you arrived, Sweetie, I was facing a public keyboard flogging for a moment there

[ringweekends]

In my head - I look like this.

[OdramaSwimLaden]

One of my first company cars; bag of st (at the time) it spent more time off the road than on.

It was replaced by a Corrado G60 and it was the last French car that i've ever had!

I was wondering the other day if it was still on the road and then I remembered there was no chance. It was off the road in a garage for 6 months in the first year of it's life. It did somehow make it down to Malta in an epic 27 hour journey though........good days.

[monthefish]

The Jolly Todger said:

monthefish said:

Indeed. But what is also interesting is the 0-62mph: 8.2 sec, figure, which for the top of the range, high performance model and was obviously seen as fairly decent in those days.

Nowadays, my BMW 320d which is the base diesel engine in the range, achieves the same time.

And that, no offence to your car, is a perfect example of how 0-60 times only have very limited usefulness. Your point is valid though, that time would never be acceptable for a range topper today.

No offence taken. I didn't buy it for its performance - I specifically wanted the smallest engine (but it can still hustle itself along quite nicely). Would be interesting to see how they compared in terms of a lap of the ring for example (i.e. see how much faster the Mi16 would be)



I recall a chap in our town had an Mi16 and he was as respected (if not more) than someone who had a Ferrari/Porsche/Lamborghini.
The (local) urban legend of him reaching a village 36 miles away in under half an hour in it (twisty roads) were never proven, but generally accepted as factual/possible, such was the reputation of these cars.

[Richair]

It's a shame many have been scrapped due to conversions for 205's over the years, hence why there's none left!

Which is a shame as one would make a great barge now...

[Leins]

Don't forget this either, with the same engine and weighing < 1000kg, but LHD only: