RE: Mario Andretti opens Austin GP track

RE: Mario Andretti opens Austin GP track

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TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

250 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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Has there been a new circuit design in the past 10 years that hasn't tried to ape Silverstone's Beckets?

Or "seek inspiration from Europe's classic tracks" ?!

PhilJames

234 posts

193 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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Alfanatic said:
V12 Migaloo said:
Amazing the difference in ride quality between the 2 lotus's, great vid, thanks PH
Yeah, all sorts of things that could be behind that too. The 79 was aluminium, the carbon tubs brought a massive benefit in chassis stiffness. The 79 also has ground effects. With skirts, but still a level body was desirable, so it may well be stiffer.

Also, the modern cars, as far as I can tell, have built in camera mounts so the camera is quite solidly attached to the car (maybe...) whereas on the 79 it is more likely suckered or duck taped to a glassfibre bit of bodywork (looked too low to be the rollhoop) which again, being glassfibre and quite square, is going to be a lot more floppy than modern, curvy bodywork.

I'd think that there are a whole load of factors causing that much camera vibration... and then there's an engine that's probably averaging something like 7000rpm instead of 16000.
The 79 sounds like it's not firing properly, you can see Andretti struggling with what looks like a lack of power. It is a very strong chassis as it was strengthened to take the added load of ground effect and faster cornering speeds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKpgjENCH1s

carinaman

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21,298 posts

172 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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TonyHetherington said:
Has there been a new circuit design in the past 10 years that hasn't tried to ape Silverstone's Beckets?

Or "seek inspiration from Europe's classic tracks" ?!
Has Portimao mimicked any of the other tracks? I don't know the answer I just think it looks great.

BBL-Sean

336 posts

176 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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pattieG said:
Does that mean it crosses over into mexico around turn 12 and we are likely to see some illegals hanging onto gearboxes at turn 14?
You do realize that Austin is 230 miles from the nearest border crossing to Mexico, right? That's a bit like saying the Spa circuit crosses into the city of Paris! And they say Americans are bad at geography... rolleyes

jazzdevil

294 posts

214 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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BBL-Sean said:
You do realize that Austin is 230 miles from the nearest border crossing to Mexico, right? That's a bit like saying the Spa circuit crosses into the city of Paris! And they say Americans are bad at geography... rolleyes
I think you missed the point

MattDell

3,242 posts

155 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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It may be (ok, is entirely) because I'm American and very excited to have F1 back in the US, but I think the circuit looks fantastic and am very excited for the race next month. smile

-Matt

Stu R

21,410 posts

215 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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Looks like a cracking circuit to me.

DanDC5

18,799 posts

167 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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LotusOmega375D said:
Where's all the mud gone? wink

Also does this track appear on the recent X-Box game for the 2012 F1 season?
Yes it does.

I was on it on the PS3 the other night. Seems quite tricky.

JMC1

567 posts

235 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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I PH rated it a 10 just because it was lovely to see a video clip of the Lotus 79 one of the greatest looking gp cars for me especially with Peterson at the wheel not that I dislike Andretti just loved Ronnie's style.
Thanks PH.

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

209 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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Renault R30 was 2010-spec wasn't it? So not current, just more modern... wink

Looks good though, I'm actually looking forward to seeing how it races. The title will be decided before then but the last race is always a bit gung-ho.

So, 10 inches... you'd probably get away with a 300mm f2.8, what are the chances that the security guards searching bags on entry won't recognise a 2x teleconverter? wink

Lazadude

1,732 posts

161 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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Ignoring the stealing corners from various tracks, the extra driving school, shops, convention center, kart track screams 'Ring to me. All they need is a rollercoaster that fails to pass the safety standards.

(That worked well for them).

Alfanatic

9,339 posts

219 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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PhilJames said:
The 79 sounds like it's not firing properly, you can see Andretti struggling with what looks like a lack of power. It is a very strong chassis as it was strengthened to take the added load of ground effect and faster cornering speeds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKpgjENCH1s
Yes it was definitely coughing and sputtering a lot but then it seemed to clear its throat hugher up te rev range. I was wondering if that's just how the Cosworth engines were in those days, but they were supposed to be very tractable. If the engine was rough though that would be anoter explanation for all the vibration.


RockDoctor

1,916 posts

166 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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Looks great to me. And the race is on my birthday! Maybe Mclaren can get me a 1-2 as a present (not likely) hehe

arfur sleep

1,166 posts

219 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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My tickets should arrive in the post tomorrow smile

looks great, can't wait.

rhysenna

689 posts

186 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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arfur sleep said:
My tickets should arrive in the post tomorrow smile

looks great, can't wait.
Our tickets arrived yesterday at a friends in Atlanta. Little(?) road trip from there to Texas shoud be fun. Can't wait. Yee haa! smile

BBL-Sean

336 posts

176 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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jazzdevil said:
I think you missed the point
No, I got it - and I agree with it as well. The choice of name for this track is poorly conceived. I may never understand why U.S. sporting authorities so frequently aggrandize the naming of their events and venues and the like.

Apologies to pattieG for my initial harsh reaction. That too was poorly conceived.

PiB

1,199 posts

270 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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It looks like a surprisingly good track. All the blind corners, off camber corners and combination corners. It certainly seems better than the last Indianapolis track. The most anticipated race this season? Wonder what the points standing will look like in November bounce

With regards to funding, remember in America we are known for smart bombs (now drones) and dumb kids so I'm not concerned about changing that heritage but I love big bird.

PhilJames said:
The 79 sounds like [ . . . . ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKpgjENCH1s
Was passing/racing fixed back then?

miln0039

2,013 posts

158 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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How big are the run offs? I predict another 2 hour Sunday afternoon kip - wait, Sunday evening given the time difference.

It's just not dangerous enough to be exciting!!

H100S

1,436 posts

173 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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First corner looks like a recipe for a first lap crash taking out some of the front runners again. Maybe Sebastian can take vettel out then he will have taken out most of the championship contenders!

I do like the elevation changes and it looks like it could be hard on the tyres too.

miln0039

2,013 posts

158 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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H100S said:
Faybe Sebastian can take vettel out
confused