RE: You Know You Want To: 964 Turbo
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turbo-ww said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
turbo-ww said:
Flat6 said:
Remember Tiff hooning around some alpine style test track in a mint green one many years ago on Top Gear. Stuck in my mind for years... Truly awesome car. I can only dream! 
Edit.. I found it!
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=82aDO0MuYQ4&des...
That will be Minty - A very, very sad story Edit.. I found it!
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=82aDO0MuYQ4&des...Edited by Flat6 on Thursday 25th October 20:42
http://www.douglasvalley.co.uk/item.asp?prodid=260...
- wonders what it's worth*
the 3.6l is the most brutal, tough looking 911 ever made in my view. its stunning. there is a midnight blue one in london i see often, the split rim alloys absolutely make the car.
I absolutely will buy one at somepoint. Only problem is that its a lot of cash in the UK and the soundtrack from the turbo is not quite upto that sort of price.
at least you know if you drive one of these that your unlikely to see another one on the road in an average year! I suppose money does buy exclusivity then.
I absolutely will buy one at somepoint. Only problem is that its a lot of cash in the UK and the soundtrack from the turbo is not quite upto that sort of price.
at least you know if you drive one of these that your unlikely to see another one on the road in an average year! I suppose money does buy exclusivity then.
f1ten said:
the 3.6l is the most brutal, tough looking 911 ever made in my view. its stunning. there is a midnight blue one in london i see often, the split rim alloys absolutely make the car.
I absolutely will buy one at somepoint. Only problem is that its a lot of cash in the UK and the soundtrack from the turbo is not quite upto that sort of price.
at least you know if you drive one of these that your unlikely to see another one on the road in an average year! I suppose money does buy exclusivity then.
3.6 sounds great on over run with a sports exhaust!I absolutely will buy one at somepoint. Only problem is that its a lot of cash in the UK and the soundtrack from the turbo is not quite upto that sort of price.
at least you know if you drive one of these that your unlikely to see another one on the road in an average year! I suppose money does buy exclusivity then.
Speaking of sports exhausts and being spotted, I do believe I saw you a few weeks back doing a 3 point turn on Kensington Park Road? (Pale blue, some kind of emblem on the front?)
Max964T36 said:
Here is my Black/Black 1993 3.6 Turbo ... wouldn't change it with anything else, it's already too quick for me
Oh my FUGatso said:
I had a 3.3 too and took it to my first Le Mans in 1999, still remember blasting through Indy and Arnage with Metallica at full whack! Drove a couple of 3.6's but would struggle to justify the extra cost. IMHO
Fire99 said:
Wills2 said:
Stu R said:
Max964T36 said:
Here is my Black/Black 1993 3.6 Turbo ... wouldn't change it with anything else, it's already too quick for me
That's beautiful! 
MC Bodge said:
BlimeyCharlie said:
I had a 1991 3.3 964 turbo....
I had no problem whatsoever with the handling, and I drove it very hard indeed. But I did respect the laws of physics-slow in, fast out, as in any 911, and the lag was not bad either.
.....I enjoyed the car, but was also glad to sell it as I felt the law of averages would catch up with me one day.
Like anything a bit extreme, you have to know what you are doing in it, or learn quickly.
So you didn't have a problem with it so long as you drove it with an eye on its 'features', but sold it because you did think it would bite you one day?I had no problem whatsoever with the handling, and I drove it very hard indeed. But I did respect the laws of physics-slow in, fast out, as in any 911, and the lag was not bad either.
.....I enjoyed the car, but was also glad to sell it as I felt the law of averages would catch up with me one day.
Like anything a bit extreme, you have to know what you are doing in it, or learn quickly.
Presumably (although having had no experience of these cars myself) if you hadn't gone slow enough in or lifted-off mid-bend, it wasn't very forgiving? -Punishing!?
Is it the relative lack of weight on the front end that contributes to the apparent understeer at turn-in and the weight on the rear that contributes to the apparent oversteer?
So, is slowing and trail-braking on turn-in, but being aware of the back possibly coming around before getting smoothly onto the gas and respecting a potentially violent turbo shove the way to drive these car
Edited by MC Bodge on Thursday 25th October 16:11
I was worried about getting into trouble for speeding, not stacking it.
Honestly, the handling was spot-on. If you have to lift-off mid-corner on the road then you are doing something wrong, and that applies to any car. Plenty of normal cars are smashed up due to basic errors, like tanking up to an unfamiliar bend and not really paying attention, or just planting your foot on the throttle with no thought of camber, surface and radius etc.
The engine and weight is in the back, so you can't go driving a 911 like you do any other car with the engine in the front. What you do get is fantastic traction mid bend onwards.
'Slow in-fast out' is slightly misleading, but 'slow' does not mean bags of understeer down to 30mph and then exit 'fast' at 90mph in a cloud of oversteer. Brake in a straight line, take up the throttle partially to 'settle' the car and apply more throttle as you go through the bend.
It is simply not going to work driving it like a 'normal' fast car. Same with the Audi Quattros when they started rallying in the early 80's-they had to be driven completely differently to any other car due to the layout and weight etc.
You also have a car with a turbo, so again you must remember this when you do decide you can open the throttle to a good degree.
It is like any high performance car and no different. Learn how is works, respect it, do not be intimidated by it though, and enjoy it.
At the end of the day I'm aware that a lot of cars back then could keep up with it, and more could now, even go faster over normal roads, but they are not driving a 911 turbo. There is pleasure to be had just looking at it. When I'd open the garage door and see it there it was an event every time.
Mr Harris has painted a 'blunt instrument' picture of the example he drove. I have to say that it is a myth about the handling as far as I could tell, but I did not approach it expecting it to drive like any other car, so forgot how I drove other cars previously. I'm not suggesting Herr Harris is wrong, or am I? Maybe I am? But he is employed to write features that invite debate. Long may it continue.
I sold mine for a modest profit, even allowing for tyres etc, and bought a 1994 1.1 Fiesta. I'd had it 2-3 weeks and got busted for speeding on a dual-carrigeway (downhill) by an unmarked car. So my feeling about the law of averages was correct!
well spotted!
car is silver, yes was just back from the racing days event at silverstone hence the sticker on the front
don logan said:
3.6 sounds great on over run with a sports exhaust!
Speaking of sports exhausts and being spotted, I do believe I saw you a few weeks back doing a 3 point turn on Kensington Park Road? (Pale blue, some kind of emblem on the front?)
Speaking of sports exhausts and being spotted, I do believe I saw you a few weeks back doing a 3 point turn on Kensington Park Road? (Pale blue, some kind of emblem on the front?)
f1ten said:
well spotted!
car is silver, yes was just back from the racing days event at silverstone hence the sticker on the front
You'll be pleased (and unsuprised) that I heard you before I saw you! :-)car is silver, yes was just back from the racing days event at silverstone hence the sticker on the front
don logan said:
3.6 sounds great on over run with a sports exhaust!
Speaking of sports exhausts and being spotted, I do believe I saw you a few weeks back doing a 3 point turn on Kensington Park Road? (Pale blue, some kind of emblem on the front?)
Speaking of sports exhausts and being spotted, I do believe I saw you a few weeks back doing a 3 point turn on Kensington Park Road? (Pale blue, some kind of emblem on the front?)
Luuuve these 965's !
Without wanting to pollute the thread , here's a pic of mine and my fathers Porsche .
Both are WTL convertibles ( Werks Turbo Looks ) , which had all the 965 spec's and options , bar the engine which was a normally aspirated 3.6 .
I've had mine first ( blue one ) and it made such an impression on dad he wanted one as well .... :-)
We found his in the UK , a LHD German import , with tiptronic , which are believed only 25 ever left Stuttgart .
The 964 WTL Convertible has had a total of 742 , so one of the rarest porsches ever made .
Love to add a 930 or 965 as well though ....
Regs , Harald
HorneyMX5 said:
So now I go browsing for 911s and find this:
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...
Soooo much want!
I was already beginning to regret putting it up for sale but now I'm having serious second thoughts...!http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...
Soooo much want!
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