RE: SOTW: Peugeot 205 GTI 1.6

[Motorrad]

It's had the engine done- mine went at around similar miles. So a shed win. Anyone bought it yet?

[hotmelt]

dbdb said:

BeirutTaxi said:

LewisR said:

GranCab said:

Hot Hatch ??? pah - for £995 this could run rings round a Pug 205GTI and it'll do 40 mpg on the motorway ...

Thank goodness that I'm not the first one on here that doesn't get the hot-hatch thing. It's all a bit new-school, Craig David, tight T-shirt, cheap aftershave.

I'd rather have the Cadillac too!

But would prefer an old Jag to either...

205 Gti is proper drivers car, like 911, so comparing with most of the other cars is not appropriate

[BeirutTaxi]

dbdb said:

BeirutTaxi said:

LewisR said:

GranCab said:

Hot Hatch ??? pah - for £995 this could run rings round a Pug 205GTI and it'll do 40 mpg on the motorway ...

Thank goodness that I'm not the first one on here that doesn't get the hot-hatch thing. It's all a bit new-school, Craig David, tight T-shirt, cheap aftershave.

I'd rather have the Cadillac too!

To me that's a bit like saying " I would rather ride a hippo than the Red Bull aerobatics plane"

[damianke]

I had one as my first company car. My birthday is 1 August, which used to be the new registration change date, so on my 27th birthday a grateful firm presented me with a brand new red 1.6 205GTI. Happy days, including an epic St Tropez to London run all in one long day. Great car; replaced three years later by Audi 80 1.8, rather more suitable for wife and new baby. Utter shed. End of youth.

[anything fast]

Proper wheels? They look like Borbet C alloys, quite nice wheels, would need a 20mm lowering kit to make it sit nicer.. more interesting than just sticking on a set of 1.9 alloys...

[edwheels]

Great SOTW...

The wheels put me off a bit - but could be replaced with originals... the tinted glass is not so easily rectified - hate heavy tints - somehow, on dainty french cars like this it looks even worse than usual

Nonetheless, the 205GTI would definitely be in my dream garage - so many good memories of driving them. I remember CAR magazine comparing one (1.9) in the 1990s against a Lotus Esprit in a fantastic feature. Bought one on largely on the strength of that article....

[J4CKO]

I think the 1.6 needs to come out of the 1.9s shadow, it was a decent car in its own right, I think someone should be snapping them up at this kind of money as they wont be around long, the market will be craving them in years to come after a diet of 1.5 tonne 300 bhp hot hatches, once we get past the thinking that more tech, more power, harder suspension and bigger wheels = fun, then these will be going up in value, a grand seems very cheap, decent mk1 Golfs seem to be up at five times that, Dub scene tax perhaps ?

Good shed !

[LewisR]

dbdb said:

BeirutTaxi said:

LewisR said:

GranCab said:

Hot Hatch ??? pah - for £995 this could run rings round a Pug 205GTI and it'll do 40 mpg on the motorway ...

Thank goodness that I'm not the first one on here that doesn't get the hot-hatch thing. It's all a bit new-school, Craig David, tight T-shirt, cheap aftershave.

I'd rather have the Cadillac too!

But would prefer an old Jag to either...

No. I was serious. not THAT sure about the Caddy but 4 cylinder, FWD hatchbacks are just painful to me. I'd have more fun in a V6 Granada.

Since WHEN has a FWD shopping car been a proper drivers' car? It isn't. It's just a tarted up town car.

[WeirdNeville]

Top shedding. That's a bucket of fun for £1k!

[RESSE]

damianke said:

I had one as my first company car. My birthday is 1 August, which used to be the new registration change date, so on my 27th birthday a grateful firm presented me with a brand new red 1.6 205GTI. Happy days, including an epic St Tropez to London run all in one long day. Great car; replaced three years later by Audi 80 1.8, rather more suitable for wife and new baby. Utter shed. End of youth.

Me too - a Topaz Blue 1.6 as my first company car (June 1989)!

Very happy days.

[E30M3SE]

LewisR said:

No. I was serious. not THAT sure about the Caddy but 4 cylinder, FWD hatchbacks are just painful to me. I'd have more fun in a V6 Granada.

Since WHEN has a FWD shopping car been a proper drivers' car? It isn't. It's just a tarted up town car.

Clearly you haven't driven one, and if we are to start a conversation about 'drivers cars' since when has a Caddy ever been described as such.....?

Except, maybe just now by you.

[LewisR]

E30M3SE said:

Clearly you haven't driven one, and if we are to start a conversation about 'drivers cars' since when has a Caddy ever been described as such.....?

Except, maybe just now by you.

Power-on understeer & lift-off oversteer are not my idea of what makes a great drivers' car. As you own an E30 M3, I'd be surprised if you didn't think the same.

[J4CKO]

LewisR said:

No. I was serious. not THAT sure about the Caddy but 4 cylinder, FWD hatchbacks are just painful to me. I'd have more fun in a V6 Granada.

Since WHEN has a FWD shopping car been a proper drivers' car? It isn't. It's just a tarted up town car.

Since when was a great big dollop of Granada a drivers car, I used to think they would be fast and great fun, then I drove a few, nice enough but not that fast, thirsty and though they could be hustled along they were too soft, horses for courses, Granada for long motorway trips, 205 for country lanes.

[E30M3SE]

Without getting to into this and derailing the thread, given the choice of going for a hoon on the public road in either a Caddy or a healthy 205 Gti in either 1.6 or 1.9 guise I'd be in the Peugeot, and I'm 100% sure I'm not in the minority on this.

[MadDog1962]

These were great cars, and this should be a top class daily driver for fun on shorter trips, or even longer ones on the right kind of roads. Ok, for sure it won't be so great for relaxed motorway cruising as a bargain barge. It should be cheaper to insure than a 1.9 too ( I am guessing), good news for younger shredders.

I am astonished to see a good 205 GTi going for shed money. Surely there's a catch somewhere? But again this is an old car these days. But then again this is shed!

Overall GREAT Shed :-)

[LewisR]

J4CKO said:

LewisR said:

No. I was serious. not THAT sure about the Caddy but 4 cylinder, FWD hatchbacks are just painful to me. I'd have more fun in a V6 Granada.

Since WHEN has a FWD shopping car been a proper drivers' car? It isn't. It's just a tarted up town car.

Since when was a great big dollop of Granada a drivers car, I used to think they would be fast and great fun, then I drove a few, nice enough but not that fast, thirsty and though they could be hustled along they were too soft, horses for courses, Granada for long motorway trips, 205 for country lanes.

The bottom line is that I get no enjoyment at all from driving a FWD car.

[WeirdNeville]

LewisR said:

The bottom line is that I get no enjoyment at all from driving a FWD car.

You hero.
I'd suggest you've not driven the right FWD cars, or you've not been shown or bothered to learn how to get the most from them.

Don't let this turn into another FWD/RWD bore fest, the bottom line is that this is a great car for £1000, and is a great shed.

[petrolsniffer]

LewisR said:

Power-on understeer & lift-off oversteer are not my idea of what makes a great drivers' car. As you own an E30 M3, I'd be surprised if you didn't think the same.

Are you going to keep avoiding the question?

Have you actually driven one? I mean properly..

These threads always have one idiot piping up stating this or that isn't a drivers car.

[hotmelt]

LewisR said:

The bottom line is that I get no enjoyment at all from driving a FWD car.

Negating 205 gti dismisses you imediately as a proper driver.

[MarJay]

Wait wut?

I am a full bore true blooded RWD fan, through and through. I own a T shirt that says "Front wheel drive is for losers". I wish more cars were RWD instead of FWD econoboxes.

However...

This is a freakin' awesome shed. SOTW has been... well... crap for the last few months. Boring boring boring cars. There was even a diesel auto in there.

And now, I can announce without any irony* that 'the green shoots of recovery' have returned to SOTW.

Thank heavens!!

*Ok maybe a bit of irony...