RE: Blood Bros: TT TDI vs Scirocco TDI

RE: Blood Bros: TT TDI vs Scirocco TDI

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anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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Trying to add something constructive, I never realised the two models would be so close.

However, as has been said, dull and something I'd expect to read in the sponsored "motoring" section of the local rag. Sorry.

corcoran

536 posts

275 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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LeoZwalf said:
lord summerisle said:
it wasn just me who skipped through the article to get to the forum then?
It wasn't just you smile

TT vs Scirocco could have been a good comparision but as soon as I realised they were both TDi versions, I wasn't interested anymore. Sorry PH but this is a bit of a fail, IMHO. frown
Ummm isn't a TT TDi a fail by default?!

mwstewart

7,617 posts

189 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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The TT has a number of upgrades including forged aluminium suspension components, recalibrated steering, modified geoemtry (lower roll centre) and more. The bodyshell on the TT is also reinforced to a greater degree than the Golf and A3 equivalent.

I did a bit of research on the platform as a potential base for a conversion project: http://www.mwstewart.co.uk/misc/SSP_381.pdf

In summary the Scricco is a budget car and the TT isn't. Gone are the days when Audi can get away with producing a rebodied and essentially unmodified A3, and advertising it as a sports coupe like they did with the fist generation TT.


gambisk

184 posts

166 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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This hasn't quite panned out like they intended has it?

thundercolo

73 posts

173 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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I've always held this site as the only car news media not bought by VAG group, the only one I visit and the only one I recommend. There's been way too much BMW propaganda lately and I could live with it only because I hate BMW a little less than VAG, but this article has seriously damaged my trust on PH. From now on I wont recommend it anymore and if I ever read something as evidently payed as this I wont return. And I wont swallow the "we need the money to be better" excuse, they all give it and they all have turned into publicity companies. I almost never comment on this site and I feel so sorry to do it like this, sorry for PH but mostly sorry for me. Is gonna be diffcult to have a nice monday today.

budgie smuggler

5,392 posts

160 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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Boring cars, boring article.

Ozone

3,046 posts

188 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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lord summerisle said:
it wasn just me who skipped through the article to get to the forum then?
rofl

No it wasn't just you.

RacingBlue

1,396 posts

165 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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Well at least the hangar in the background livened up the pictures...


Stuart

11,635 posts

252 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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They might be boring, but the point about Blood Brothers is that we look at two different cars available with the same engine. So we've looked at comparisons of stuff with the Ford 5 pot turbo, and we'll doubtless look at stuff with the JLR V8. I won't attempt to disagree with anyone who thinks they're boring (frankly they don't exactly set my hair on fire either) but the accusation that this is sponsored is inaccurate, and clearly requires some clarification.

As ever with PistonHeads, reading is not compulsory. There are other things published on PH today should this not be to your taste...


TameRacingDriver

18,094 posts

273 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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To be honest, I can see the appeal particularly with the TT, a nice looking, comfortable, quick little coupe with reasonable running costs. No its not an out-and-out sports car, but its not really trying to be, I don't think.

Liquid Tuna

1,400 posts

157 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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Jesus Christ! I'll be heading for a midlife crisis in the next few years. Is this what I have to look forward to?

JonnyO

237 posts

201 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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I have no problems with these cars, not even the fact that they are diesel.
However, its the article thats a bit dull. No real 'hook' or sense of fun to liven it up.

TameRacingDriver

18,094 posts

273 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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Liquid Tuna said:
Jesus Christ! I'll be heading for a midlife crisis in the next few years. Is this what I have to look forward to?
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I would say these are more cars that you might have just before or after a mid life crisis, but not for the actual midlife crisis.

I think I'm having mine now, but I chose a 350Z and am only 33. That must mean I'm going to have a short life frown I could easily envisage something a bit more toned down / boring / easy / cheap next. This type of thing would seem to fit the bill.

Steve vRS

4,848 posts

242 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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Can I be the first to suggest that a GT86 can be had for the same money as the Scirocco. It has the right fuel and surely the RWD makes up for the lack of mpg - this is PH after all biggrin

Obviously the TT will be faster 30-70 though.....

Steve

TheFungle

Original Poster:

4,076 posts

207 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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Stuart said:
They might be boring, but the point about Blood Brothers is that we look at two different cars available with the same engine. So we've looked at comparisons of stuff with the Ford 5 pot turbo, and we'll doubtless look at stuff with the JLR V8. I won't attempt to disagree with anyone who thinks they're boring (frankly they don't exactly set my hair on fire either) but the accusation that this is sponsored is inaccurate, and clearly requires some clarification.

As ever with PistonHeads, reading is not compulsory. There are other things published on PH today should this not be to your taste...
What prompted my initial comment was not so much that it was boring but the fact it read like simply a rehash of a sales brochure or press release. Other than the fact that both cars obviously had to be driven to the HAS to be photographed there is next to no mention of what they actually drive like.

crispyshark

1,262 posts

146 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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So little time spent on talking about the feeling of drive around town or motorway Vs the spirited B road hack. The huge differential between the cars is the steering and handling. Where was the intricate detail on this rather than a snatched sentence or two?

The Scirocco has driver choosen, multiple suspension settings which when i tested and reviewed the car seemingly did nothing. I want to know about this.....not what the dimming mirrors cost!

If you are buying either of these cars it's not for the 0-60 sprint but rather the economy AND whether you can have an fun once the beast is shuffling on a twisty road.

As someone else stated, i could've gone to the sales bumpf for most of the content of this article.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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IANinBCN

13 posts

192 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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You can get a 3.2 VR6 TT with 250 hp for about the same money, OK, it´s less economical, but does 60 in under 6 seconds and sounds a million times better. Must say though I'm biased, I got a 2007 V6 TT for my midlife crisis-mobile

Dave Hedgehog

14,568 posts

205 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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Stuart said:
They might be boring. I won't attempt to disagree with anyone who thinks they're boring (frankly they don't exactly set my hair on fire either).
tongue out


the blood brothers angle is a good idea thou smile

miln0039

2,013 posts

159 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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Having driven the TT TDi I can confirm it's not a bad steer at all really and it's a bloody nice place to sit too! Feel top notch. Those with company car allowances to think about could do a lot worse IMO. I'd still take the 2.0T petrol version over it though!!

Fair enough the car might not be to every readers tastes - but I don't think the st that a lot of people throw is necessarily very fair, and certainly not based on experience.

So - well done PH for writing something a bit different to the usual 0-60 / powers sliding reviews that Chris Harris manages. (Okay maybe that's unfair but he's still in the dog-house for his Z4 Coupe article IMO!)