RE: SOTW: BMW 540i Touring

RE: SOTW: BMW 540i Touring

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Strawman

6,463 posts

208 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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What are the gearbox issues likely to be? Imminent failure of just doesn't kick down when you want it to.

e28525e

462 posts

142 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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I had one of these 2 years ago when I was 20, it was quick enough for me! I clocked 60mph in the book time of 6.7 seconds so not too shabby. It would do 70 mph in second and just over 100mph in 3rd.
Piccy here:


One problem worth mentioning - nearly all have cooling system problems. Expansion tank etc. Not detrimental but worth watching.

I am currently running an E34 525i saloon which I have converted to a 4.0 with 6 speed manual. People need to stop bringing up the Nikasil issue as in the original post, it is simply not relevant now.

TobesH

550 posts

208 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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TurboLizard said:
This isn't a shed fail, this is the best SOTW ever! Simply for the comedy value of the current owner of the car proclaiming it as his worst car ever on this very and then lo-and-behold it ends up being the most talked about feature car of this week! You couldn't make it up! Might as well scrap it now pal! laughlaughlaugh
Made me smile this morning smile probably worth more in parts anyway

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

169 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Clue's in the title with this one folks! And the buying advice contained within by my esteemed colleague Blackpuddin' can be applied to other 540s if this one doesn't quite do it for you.

It is what it is, etc...

Cheers,

Dan

carinaman

21,326 posts

173 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Thanks for the heads up funkyrobot.

I'm not sure farty, loud exhausts work with autos. I think I've heard one on an E39 and a Honda Legend.

drchris

318 posts

181 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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On reflection.

Those alloys look mint and other parts would be worth more that the money paid for it if sold separately. .

Drive it til it breaks then make profit on the bits

Win.

Garlick

40,601 posts

241 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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drchris said:
On reflection.

Those alloys look mint and other parts would be worth more that the money paid for it if sold separately. .

Drive it til it breaks then make profit on the bits

Win.
Thank you.

83TEP

150 posts

154 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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massive vendor fail

Output Flange

16,802 posts

212 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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drchris said:
On reflection.

Those alloys look mint and other parts would be worth more that the money paid for it if sold separately. .

Drive it til it breaks then make profit on the bits

Win.
Yeah, except you might struggle with that one.

I broke my 540i Touring a while back when it, er, broke, and getting value from it was hard.

What WAS worth a lot of money on mine were the manual gearbox, clutch, flywheel and pedal box - basically everything someone needed to convert their automatic car to manual. Start with an auto and you'll struggle to see much back from it.

Also bear in mind that these engines can suffer timing chain guide problems at high mileages (mine did, others I know have) and that's a £1k fix.

Personally I wouldn't touch this with a double-wrapped, asbestos-lined stunt cock, if you're doing it with the idea of covering costs by breaking it.

bikerPaul

1,674 posts

211 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Normally this would have the E39 fanboi's creaming themselves (you know who you are) but this one is just too much of a gamble.

Plenty good for scrap though if you have somewhere to break it. hehe

carinaman

21,326 posts

173 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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funkyrobot said:
Ahem.

PH really should do their homework with these things nono
Difficult to argue otherwise. It's Shed of the Week, not Lemon of the Week.

I'm sure a few of us have used web forum postings to check the history on cars for sale. It's not rocket science is it.

carinaman

21,326 posts

173 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Output Flange said:
Personally I wouldn't touch this with a double-wrapped, asbestos-lined stunt cock, if you're doing it with the idea of covering costs by breaking it.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Canningmister said:
CampDavid said:
Yes and no. In reality 290BHP these days isn't much at all but then we've moved on so much in the passing years. At the time it was acceptable, no more.

I have the same lump in my 740i and it won't really set the world alight in terms of pace but most importantly it is quick enough. It has bag loads of torque and it's quiet at idle and extremely smooth. My 7er only feels lacking above 140mph, which is fair enough.
Don't get me wrong I have always loved the idea of an E39, I have just never been decisive enough on what engine. i always fancied a 530i M Sport manual, but I would love a V8 model. What sort of MPG would you normally see in the 7series? Low 20s? Are the engines relatively easy to maintain and service for the home mechanic?
The bit that people don't "get" with mpg and big engined cars is the way it varies.

Take my small engined Megane. A mix of beating the crap out of it and driving in town should see you hit 25mpg. Normally it hits 32 to the gallon and 35 is possible if you're a saint.

The 7er will do about 9mpg or even less if you boot it about town while 30mpg is doable if you're sensible, in fact, on a long trip the difference between Megane and 7er is probably under 5mpg at 90mph.

In practise I get about 22-25mpg from the 7. I don't really drive it hard as, although it's surprisingly good at country lanes, it's much more enjoyable to drive it smoothly than to late brake for everything.

Home servicing wise, I wouldn't know too much as I don't do much myself these days. The engine bay is spacious enough to allow you to work on it though and it's sensibly put together. I took the rear door card apart and the logic with which it's put together would astound the good people at Citroen.

Personally, I think these big engined BMs are a superb buy. They're cheap, offer a great mix of refinement and performance and the running costs, while not cheap, are certainly reasonable. They also drive brilliantly and handle with competence lacking in nearly all their rivals

Edited by CampDavid on Friday 9th November 09:53

carinaman

21,326 posts

173 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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CampDavid said:
The 7er will do about 9mpg or even less if you boot it about town while 30mpg is doable if you're sensible, in fact, on a long trip the difference between Megane and 7er is probably under 5mpg at 90mpg.


smile

CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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carinaman said:
smile
Edited. Ta wink

Devil2575

13,400 posts

189 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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funkyrobot said:
Ahem. This has been discussed on the smoker barge thread.

Click on the advert owner link, then look at the recent postings from the user. This car has issues smile

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Bit of a sale failure really. smile

PH really should do their homework with these things nono
I suspect that a lot of SOTW motors will be in a simuilar state with serious issues.

As someone who has spent quite a bit of time looking for cars are the lower end of the market, a motor can sound great in an advert and look mint in the pictures but be absolute rubbish when you view it in the flesh. In fact i'd say that more than half ot the cars on sale at the vottom end of the market fail to live up to the advert.

carinaman

21,326 posts

173 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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'consummate with age'?

It's f***ed?

Sounds like career advice for celebrities that may have been useful in the 70s.

pSyCoSiS

3,601 posts

206 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Garlick said:
drchris said:
On reflection.

Those alloys look mint and other parts would be worth more that the money paid for it if sold separately. .

Drive it til it breaks then make profit on the bits

Win.
Thank you.
Indeed so.

The E39 is probably the best-built 5 Series ever. I love them. You can do a long journey in it, without taking a break and arrive refreshed at the other end.

Everything is just so well put-together.

Quiet, smooth and comfortable.

The pre-facelift Tourings are better looking than the saloons IMHO, and alot more practical.

And those V8 engines are solid - just keep on top of regular servicing, keep an eye on the cooling system (water pumps can fail), but apart from that, nothing major on them. Oh, it will naturally like a drink!

The Touring models have the self-levelling rear suspension, on which the airbags or compressor can fail.

But if all these are good, it's a lot of car for the cash.

HustleRussell

24,724 posts

161 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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"Received E39 wisdom however is that, no matter what you do, up to and including steering box replacement, you'll probably never quite get rid of that shimmy."

Really?

Output Flange

16,802 posts

212 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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HustleRussell said:
Really?
No.

But in an article about E39 Tourings that doesn't mention checking the rear suspension, it's no big surprise wink