Why are car keys so expensive?

Why are car keys so expensive?

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Motorrad

6,811 posts

188 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Well I like to see nearly dead threads come back from the abyss.

The answer is if you're lucky they aren't because an automotive locksmith can almost certainly do the same job as a dealer and do it quicker.

Renault quoted me about 260 quid for a Clio key along with a wait of weeks and some major inconvenience leaving it with them.

Automotive locksmith 70 quid all in, done in half an hour including a cup of tea.

I don't normally promote businesses but this bloke had me up and running in time to take my sick Grandparent to the hospital. He's like the 9th emergency service or something. biggrin

http://www.remotekeyfobrepairs.co.uk/

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

221 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Motorrad said:
Well I like to see nearly dead threads come back from the abyss.

The answer is if you're lucky they aren't because an automotive locksmith can almost certainly do the same job as a dealer and do it quicker.

Renault quoted me about 260 quid for a Clio key along with a wait of weeks and some major inconvenience leaving it with them.

Automotive locksmith 70 quid all in, done in half an hour including a cup of tea.

I don't normally promote businesses but this bloke had me up and running in time to take my sick Grandparent to the hospital. He's like the 9th emergency service or something. biggrin

http://www.remotekeyfobrepairs.co.uk/
Well that's fine if the key and fob are OEM quality and they can definitely retrieve and reprogram the SKC from the ECU/instruments to do the immobilizer side of things properly.

I've seen some of the 20 quid ebay VAG switchblade blanks and they are utter garbage compared to the real thing.

jayemm89

4,046 posts

131 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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It's at times like these I am thankful Lotus are tight-wads and still use the old Ford/Volvo/Aston/Bloodyeverything key on the Evora.

I don't know what a replacement costs but doubt its much.

I was surprised when a brand new key for my E46 M3 was only £120 - was preparing for much, much worse.

RemyMartin

6,759 posts

206 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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What is the price for the BMW key with the computer screen In it?

Josho

748 posts

98 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Being in the motor trade I don't think half the key costs are that bad.

I just put a new one in my van, cost me £16 for a cheap 2 button fob online.

Now I have the code which I bought for £25 I can do it as many times as I like in no time at all.

Last time I lost a key on a VW T5 the locksmith came out and charged £140 for a new key. I don't think that's too bad. The key cost him £60 and he's charged £80 on his way home for 15 mins of his time to decode, cut and program the key and finish his cup of tea.

He was saying that sometimes he takes his time as customers moan about prices when he's in and out in 15 min.

Personally I pay his prices because he is quick and he just does his job correctly every time.

What people don't realize is the thousands of pounds of equipment on his van, his diesel etc.

Don't get me wrong he probably takes home £250-300 a day and bloody fair play to him.

mcford

819 posts

175 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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People don't give a second thought to the security systems within the key that give you a lower insurance premium and make the car insurable.

HappyMidget

6,788 posts

116 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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mcford said:
People don't give a second thought to the security systems within the key that give you a lower insurance premium and make the car insurable.
It's a cheap as chips fking RFID chip. Nothing special.

RobEB

96 posts

96 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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From experience with my time at Saab, new keys cost a lot in labour because (in the case of Saabs) the immobiliser unit has to be completely reprogrammed with all the keys at the same time. Coding a new key to the car results in all other keys s being wiped off. The whole operation taking between 35-50 minutes or so. The keyfobs themselves, i was told, can only be mated to one immobiliser unit, they can't be coded to another vehicle. In the case of lost keys, we would supply and code a new immobiliser module and 2 fobs and 2 blades.The full key itself comes in 2 parts, the bit with the buttons, and the key blade, though only the fob is needed to start the car. Can't remember the costs to replace and program, pretty sure the key blade was about £15-20 plus vat, and the fob about £45-50 plus vat.Think it comes to something around £170-180 including programming.
After Saab went bust, it was difficult to get replacement keyfobs for a while, then someone started selling non genuine replacements on eBay, and they were cheap nasty plastic crap with very little feel to the buttons, compared to the nice rubbery feel of the original.

MysteryLemon

4,968 posts

192 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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The cheapest I could get a programmed and working remote locking key for my wife Fiat Bravo was £340 and that was through an owner's club with a guy who worked in parts at a fiat dealer using his discount.

Timpsons wanted £460 for the same key even with the guy offering me OAP discount to soften the blow.

Needless to say, the wife still only has a non remote key...

2 GKC

1,909 posts

106 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Got pushed into a swimming pool with keys to a W202 in my pocket. Didn't work so had to order a new one from mercedes for about £180 if I recall correctly, a real wounder. Then read manual and saw that the key needed to be re-synced and the bd worked fine! Said mercedes was worth all of £350 at the time

John Rutter

85 posts

177 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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650 for my Murcielago key which reading other posts doesn't seem too bad

pits

6,429 posts

191 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Just had to spend £145 on one from BMW for a key I didn't even know worked

ChocolateFrog

25,556 posts

174 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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mcford said:
People don't give a second thought to the security systems within the key that give you a lower insurance premium and make the car insurable.
No one believed that when you said it 4 years ago

2012mcford said:
There's alot of technology in a key these days, bet you didn't give it a thought at how much the expensive key saves you your insurance premium each year.

turboslippers

187 posts

248 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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When I bought our 996 Porker it came with a second key but I never properly checked and it was a blank and the fob was empty of electronics so, useless.

I think the local Porsche specialist wanted about £380 all in for cutting the key and programming but then I found a guy online (and recommended off a porsche forum) that could cut the key from just an iphone photo for £25. I was skeptical but, sure enough, with just a decent overhead iphone picture he made a key. I then got the electronics off ebay and gave to my specialist for programming so total bill in end was 'only' about £200

BeirutTaxi

6,631 posts

215 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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John Rutter said:
650 for my Murcielago key which reading other posts doesn't seem too bad
It's just a run of the mill Audi under the body though isn't it?!





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Matttrakker

630 posts

148 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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£200 for a mk6 golf key from VW and for that they mananged to get the unofficial replacement that came with it stop working too. So £200 to be in the same position as I was!

CoolHands

18,714 posts

196 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Why is everyone losing their keys? I don't think I've ever lost a car key.

only1ian

689 posts

195 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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£450 for a SL63 AMG! Apparently only 5 memory slots for keys and they need to order a specific slot at order! Strongly suspect hokeum but how do you prove ir! Thats a discounted price too...

PositronicRay

27,066 posts

184 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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CoolHands said:
Why is everyone losing their keys? I don't think I've ever lost a car key.
To polarise opinion.

PHer 1: Look how powerfully built I am, and how much I can afford on keys.
PHer 2: What...my car didn't cost that much! I'd just whittle one from a twig.

Harry H

3,402 posts

157 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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AA, RAC will charge a £10 premium to insure against loss of car keys.

Not that I would do it but I'm sure a few people that have lost their key and have a spare join up wait a few weeks then.......

Also worth looking to see if it's covered under household insurance. A lot of my Motorcycle kit was damaged in an accident, turns out it was all covered under household.