RE: Caterham spots a gap, goes for it

RE: Caterham spots a gap, goes for it

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RichyBoy

3,739 posts

217 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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I cannot believe someone managed to mention a bmw barge in a caterham thread lol.

Spingo

145 posts

195 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Have the new 5 speed Caterhams got revised ratios (particularly 1st & 2nd) compared with my old 5 speed 1.4 Supersport? My first & second is waaaayyy too short for a car that weighs in at c. 550kgs.

Having a Supersport R with a 5 speed box seems a bit of a backward step to me, but presumably Caterham know their stuff???!!

otolith

56,145 posts

204 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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RichyBoy said:
I cannot believe someone managed to mention a bmw barge in a caterham thread lol.
It was somewhat tongue in cheek, as I think was the mention of a Golf GTI that it was a reply to - but if I hadn't done it in jest, I expect someone would have been along to do it in seriousness before long, it seems to be the way of things round here at the moment.

Davey S2

13,096 posts

254 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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How difficult would it be to buy a regular Supersport then plumb in a Duratec in a few years time when you got bored if 140 bhp?

A well specced Supersport seems to be a good platform to upgrade in the future.

coppice

8,612 posts

144 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Spingo said:
Have the new 5 speed Caterhams got revised ratios (particularly 1st & 2nd) compared with my old 5 speed 1.4 Supersport? My first & second is waaaayyy too short for a car that weighs in at c. 550kgs.

Having a Supersport R with a 5 speed box seems a bit of a backward step to me, but presumably Caterham know their stuff???!!
Really - my five speed SS managed about 15 in first but at 7600 did something like 68 in second...

Spingo

145 posts

195 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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coppice said:
Really - my five speed SS managed about 15 in first but at 7600 did something like 68 in second...
Granted 2nd isn't as bad as 1st although I have never revved my engine that high - isn't the limiter set at 7200 or something like that? I do find however that changing from 2nd to 3rd the car is out of the power band again...

3rd/4th are pretty good ratios and 5th makes for a relaxing cruise esp. for longer journeys - I brought mine back from Cornwall a couple of w/e's ago and felt very fresh in it after 250 miles (although the rain might have helped!!!)

I really ought to get a long 1st fitted - any idea of the cost of this conversion including fitting? Shame Caterham don't fit a long first as standard... :-(

johnvthe2nd

1,285 posts

197 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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I've got a well specced Golf and a Caterham yes

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Spingo said:
a bit of a backward step
Given the car is more than 50 years old I suspect you're onto something!

jason61c

5,978 posts

174 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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caterham fleecing customers again! Bet this cost them at least £1000 in development and biscuits.

F.C.

3,897 posts

208 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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28k!!
fk me I'll have a well specc'd s/h Bently Continental for that and it'll be quicker.


(Thought I'd chime in on the pointless comparison bandwagon) wink

Fishy Dave

1,026 posts

245 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Spingo said:
Granted 2nd isn't as bad as 1st although I have never revved my engine that high - isn't the limiter set at 7200 or something like that? I do find however that changing from 2nd to 3rd the car is out of the power band again...
A 1400 Supersport should redline at 7600rpm, you may have a red shift light on the dash that lights about 7400rpm (it's the top light behind the steering wheel). If you are changing up early it may explain why the car is dropping out of the powerband. Worth getting a long first or the 6 speed box.

Agent Orange

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2,194 posts

246 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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jason61c said:
caterham fleecing customers again! Bet this cost them at least £1000 in development and biscuits.
Where as a new M3, M5 costs xx million/billion dollars for basically the same as the previous package? biggrinwink

Spingo

145 posts

195 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Fishy Dave said:
A 1400 Supersport should redline at 7600rpm, you may have a red shift light on the dash that lights about 7400rpm (it's the top light behind the steering wheel). If you are changing up early it may explain why the car is dropping out of the powerband. Worth getting a long first or the 6 speed box.
Ah righty - thanks Fishy Dave. I always thought that red light meant something more serious? Is it really safe to rev the engine that high (with the correct oil etc)?

I agree, a long first would be desirable and would probably suit my needs (& pocket) better than a 6 speed. I know the 6 speed has good reviews, but I'm not sure I personally could live with the 1:1 ratio in 6th - anyone out there in Berkshire with a 1.4 6 speed willing to demo to me?!! ;-)

DonkeyApple

55,310 posts

169 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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F.C. said:
28k!!
fk me I'll have a well specc'd s/h Bently Continental for that and it'll be quicker.


(Thought I'd chime in on the pointless comparison bandwagon) wink

chris7676

2,685 posts

220 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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What a gap?

They have been making these cars for nearly centuries...