RE: GT86: the next step
Discussion
Rawwr said:
I personally feel it doesn't need any more power.
+100000.For Christ's sake will everyone stop talking crap about "more power". It doesn't need anything. And after everyone goes around begging for Toyota to make it more focused or harder-edged, they go and do it, and oh look.. It's not as good on a real road (from both the article and what GFW says above).
It's meant to be a usable, cheap, fun road car. It's bloody brilliant at that. Why can't people on here just watch that "The Real Deal" TV advert and be happy that at least a couple of manufacturers are still prepared to make such a thing?
I think it's one of the best and most ambitious projects to actually make production for a long time, and I have a lot of respect for it.
McSam said:
Rawwr said:
I personally feel it doesn't need any more power.
+100000.For Christ's sake will everyone stop talking crap about "more power". It doesn't need anything. And after everyone goes around begging for Toyota to make it more focused or harder-edged, they go and do it, and oh look.. It's not as good on a real road (from both the article and what GFW says above).
It's meant to be a usable, cheap, fun road car. It's bloody brilliant at that. Why can't people on here just watch that "The Real Deal" TV advert and be happy that at least a couple of manufacturers are still prepared to make such a thing?
I think it's one of the best and most ambitious projects to actually make production for a long time, and I have a lot of respect for it.
king threads.I like it how it is. For me it would be fine. But then I loved my non-turbo FC RX7 (and my non-turbo MR2). Just because I don't need lots of power to enjoy driving doesn't mean that other people shouldn't have it. Just so long as there is a version that is fun, reliable and cheap to run so I can have one of those ones.
MajorTom said:
Definately needs more power.....300bhp and a £20k price tag would be nice.
Not 400bhp and £15k then? Nicer surely, as it's more power for less money. More unrealistic too but why be realistic?Or maybe 329bhp and £16,473.29 is the sweet spot?
Why is it always round numbers?
Captain Muppet said:
MajorTom said:
Definately needs more power.....300bhp and a £20k price tag would be nice.
Not 400bhp and £15k then? Nicer surely, as it's more power for less money. More unrealistic too but why be realistic?Or maybe 329bhp and £16,473.29 is the sweet spot?
Why is it always round numbers?
Captain Muppet said:
Not 400bhp and £15k then? Nicer surely, as it's more power for less money. More unrealistic too but why be realistic?
Or maybe 329bhp and £16,473.29 is the sweet spot?
Why is it always round numbers?
Now go all the way; give it a ps3 controller for a steering wheel, 503bhp and numpty wheel drive for £13,950.Or maybe 329bhp and £16,473.29 is the sweet spot?
Why is it always round numbers?
Captain Muppet said:
I think they should give it more power just so I don't have to read any more of these fking threads.
I like it how it is. For me it would be fine. But then I loved my non-turbo FC RX7 (and my non-turbo MR2). Just because I don't need lots of power to enjoy driving doesn't mean that other people shouldn't have it. Just so long as there is a version that is fun, reliable and cheap to run so I can have one of those ones.
king threads.I like it how it is. For me it would be fine. But then I loved my non-turbo FC RX7 (and my non-turbo MR2). Just because I don't need lots of power to enjoy driving doesn't mean that other people shouldn't have it. Just so long as there is a version that is fun, reliable and cheap to run so I can have one of those ones.
I agree that a higher-powered version could help them sell more. But I really hate the idea that this one is no good because it has "only" 200bhp, people saying it's useless without a turbo etc.. I think it does exactly what they wanted it to do, very well, and is a great car for it! If you want something deliberately fast in a straight line you should go elsewhere as that was never what this car was for.
RichyBoy said:
Captain Muppet said:
Not 400bhp and £15k then? Nicer surely, as it's more power for less money. More unrealistic too but why be realistic?
Or maybe 329bhp and £16,473.29 is the sweet spot?
Why is it always round numbers?
Now go all the way; give it a ps3 controller for a steering wheel, 503bhp and numpty wheel drive for £13,950.Or maybe 329bhp and £16,473.29 is the sweet spot?
Why is it always round numbers?
I thought it was interesting a manufacturer decided to make a car for the aftermarket to approach how it wanted, and to keep basic costs down, rather than trying to make an instant "uber peformance" all things to all men car.
While the car is similar to the Mazda RX8 in idea (i.e affordable, RWD, not massive power, quite light, good handling) the RX8 was very hard to modify, whilst my recent experience at SEMA show, where the 86 was almost ubiquitous, and talks with aftermarket people there and elsewhere, show the 86 was designed to have the heck modified out of it!
Lets see if that ideal takes hold in the UK, where people can sometimes be quite circumspect about changing to "non factory" mods....
While the car is similar to the Mazda RX8 in idea (i.e affordable, RWD, not massive power, quite light, good handling) the RX8 was very hard to modify, whilst my recent experience at SEMA show, where the 86 was almost ubiquitous, and talks with aftermarket people there and elsewhere, show the 86 was designed to have the heck modified out of it!
Lets see if that ideal takes hold in the UK, where people can sometimes be quite circumspect about changing to "non factory" mods....
McSam said:
It's meant to be a usable, cheap, fun road car.
BRZ costs about 50k€ in Finland. And Australians tested acceleration 0-60 to be 11s with two fat blokes in the car. Too much money for shopping trolley performance. Used miata or RX8 is much better bet. We do not even have bare bone spec available. And why gearing on automatic transmission is so high compared to manual? No point getting DCT for this car for this reason.Edited by Raitzi on Tuesday 13th November 12:08
Rawwr said:
hornetrider said:
I think it's fine as is, power-wise, but surely model evolution will include more power down the line. I think that's what the majority of people will want, rather than some stick on tat spoiler.
It's funny really, given the choice of vehicles available on the market, if people really want a fast car; why not start with a fast car in the first place?Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff