RE: Holy smoke - Jag's 70s diesel flirtations
Discussion
The jpster said, "The V12 didn't fit. It cost Ford a truckload of money to turn the XJ40 into the XJ81 so it would take the big twelve and then they only sold it four a couple of years (plus a couple more as the X305".
Yes, sort of - but it was Ford's own fault !
XJ81 had already been engineered and tooled to accept the V12 as XJ82 (a 4" stretch behind the B pillar) but the project was stopped when money got tight and the were tools oiled and stored. Later, a Ford Bean-Counter noticed the charge for storing the tools and Bill Hayden (Jaguar Chairman at the time) had them scrapped.
Having done this, Ford decided to put the V12 in the standard wheelbase XJ40 saloon (creating XJ81, but with lots of new BIW tooling to get the V12 in)
Next, Hayden drove a pre-production XJ81 one weekend and came in on Monday to delay the project for another twelve months. He deemed the performance to be unacceptable, so the 5.3 V12 was enlarged to 6.0: JaguarSport already had a 6.0 of course, but it was a bit pricey for larger scale production. More money spent then ....
Last of all, somebody suggested that a longer wheelbase might help reduce complaints about the lack of rear room in the car, so a 5" stretch behind the B pillar was engineered as an SVO project.
Ah, the hilarious cost of not making a plan and then sticking to it .....
Yes, sort of - but it was Ford's own fault !
XJ81 had already been engineered and tooled to accept the V12 as XJ82 (a 4" stretch behind the B pillar) but the project was stopped when money got tight and the were tools oiled and stored. Later, a Ford Bean-Counter noticed the charge for storing the tools and Bill Hayden (Jaguar Chairman at the time) had them scrapped.
Having done this, Ford decided to put the V12 in the standard wheelbase XJ40 saloon (creating XJ81, but with lots of new BIW tooling to get the V12 in)
Next, Hayden drove a pre-production XJ81 one weekend and came in on Monday to delay the project for another twelve months. He deemed the performance to be unacceptable, so the 5.3 V12 was enlarged to 6.0: JaguarSport already had a 6.0 of course, but it was a bit pricey for larger scale production. More money spent then ....
Last of all, somebody suggested that a longer wheelbase might help reduce complaints about the lack of rear room in the car, so a 5" stretch behind the B pillar was engineered as an SVO project.
Ah, the hilarious cost of not making a plan and then sticking to it .....
masermartin said:
That is absolute class, thanks for posting that - happy days pml . His is a nicer colour than mine was just!!
masermartin said:
That is absolute class, thanks for posting that - happy days pml . His is a nicer colour than mine was just!!masermartin said:
mine did 85+ mph and 60mpg, if you run a fleet of 100 vehicles doing 30,000 miles each the change from a 30mpg petrol to a 50mpg diesel saves 40,000 gallons of fuel a year is a hell of a saving
LewisR said:
JREwing said:
mat777 said:
Until Jag can explain why their XF 2.2D manual is less economical than and makes more CO2 than an Audi A6 3.0 auto, then my family will unfortunately continue to buy German
beetroute said:
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Last of all, somebody suggested that a longer wheelbase might help reduce complaints about the lack of rear room in the car, so a 5" stretch behind the B pillar was engineered as an SVO project.
Ah, the hilarious cost of not making a plan and then sticking to it .....
Weren't those stretched 'Majestic' bodies built by CPP? I recall they carried a huge price premium over the SWB version. I know a chap who has several.Last of all, somebody suggested that a longer wheelbase might help reduce complaints about the lack of rear room in the car, so a 5" stretch behind the B pillar was engineered as an SVO project.
Ah, the hilarious cost of not making a plan and then sticking to it .....
My X330 was built in-house, which made it cheaper. Although of course that's nothing compared to what it actually cost me to buy one a year ago. Massively undervalued at the moment.
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